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Not a real apology when it only happens because of public pressure, this is just saving face. And not a very good attempt at that.
Every time there's a thread on this I want to bring up the fact that Amjad still has not listed what this open source project stole. You cannot go around accusing someone trying to start their career (this intern) of IP theft and not present evidence. Release a statement clearly stating NOTHING was stolen or release evidence. We have the public commit history of the project. Feel free to go through each commit and po…
> You cannot go around accusing someone trying to start their career (this intern) of IP theft I'm not saying that I agree with threatening legal action here, but this isn't really a fair classification. You are implying the the CEO put an ex-intern on blast in the community. There is a huge difference between making a statement in a private email (which the other party then releases), and making a public accusation…
These are the words Masad used on Twitter to describe the situation in the OP:
> As a matter of principle, when someone goes into your home and steals from you, even if it's not material, you have to respond.
That's a direct public accusation of IP theft.
The craziest part, to me, is how the CEO could have expressed his view in a way that would have been much more compelling. "Hey, really cool project. Though honestly, not sure how I feel about a former intern of mine publishing a project that is so similar to what they worked on as an intern. But on that note, we'd be happy to have you back on the team if you want to continue the project with us :) What do you say?"…
everyone is armchair quarterbacking here on what was the rational thing to do. but we are mostly not rational creatures esp when our "babies" are involved.
The parting jab in the closing email is classic: "you said 'I will not be copying more stuff' " (OP didn't say that and given their current stance of not copying anything, I doubt they would admit that) "Arrive at new ways of doing things -- make new mistakes" Egotistical people always try to get the last word in. Even when apologizing.
Like a used car salesman sliding in some hidden fees after the deal is done. All of this is poorly saving face anyhow.
His HN response is pretty baffling to read. Saying he's "no longer the struggling kid from Jordan" who now needs to "be kind and model better behavior" is oddly focused on him, but it also kind of points to... people from Jordan are incapable of being kind? The whole approach he took here is just very poorly thought out.
I just kind of ignore it and assume it’s a natural rhetorical technique, sometimes unconscious, to just say something that’s perceived positively. I suppose technically it’s “appeal to irrelevant authority.”
Every time there's a thread on this I want to bring up the fact that Amjad still has not listed what this open source project stole. You cannot go around accusing someone trying to start their career (this intern) of IP theft and not present evidence. Release a statement clearly stating NOTHING was stolen or release evidence. We have the public commit history of the project. Feel free to go through each commit and po…
> You cannot go around accusing someone trying to start their career (this intern) of IP theft I'm not saying that I agree with threatening legal action here, but this isn't really a fair classification. You are implying the the CEO put an ex-intern on blast in the community. There is a huge difference between making a statement in a private email (which the other party then releases), and making a public accusation…
The craziest part, to me, is how the CEO could have expressed his view in a way that would have been much more compelling. "Hey, really cool project. Though honestly, not sure how I feel about a former intern of mine publishing a project that is so similar to what they worked on as an intern. But on that note, we'd be happy to have you back on the team if you want to continue the project with us :) What do you say?"…
not defending his action here at all but the psychology of being a startup founder is interesting here. he couldve "seen this movie before" and jumped to conclusions. he couldve just had a rough day. sometimes you spend entire adult life feeling like the whole world is against you and you lash out without thinking it through. everyone is armchair quarterbacking here on what was the rational thing to do. but we are mo…
Even now Amjad refuses to provide any detail or receipts to Radon for his public accusations of tortious behavior.
> everyone is armchair quarterbacking here on what was the rational thing to do.
Do you seriously prefer your web psychoanalysis?
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Just to clarify. This post has gained over 200 points and 70 comments on the last hour. It jumped from top 5 posts to low end of the top 50 posts in seconds and is rapidly sinking. Just curious what decision led to the hiding of a popular post.
His HN response is pretty baffling to read. Saying he's "no longer the struggling kid from Jordan" who now needs to "be kind and model better behavior" is oddly focused on him, but it also kind of points to... people from Jordan are incapable of being kind? The whole approach he took here is just very poorly thought out.
I disagree. Past traumas shape us and how we see and respond to the world around us.
This is something that’s true, but not really relevant.
Note that we did not reference all of our past traumas these two comments. Not because our traumas didn’t shape us, but because it’s not practical to describe our traumas in every thing we say, all the time.