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Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...because the wild women of grunge can't possibly have brains too? Disingenuous, my friend. There are famous rockers with PhDs (the guy from green day comes to mind).

First, I don't think anyone in Green Day has a PhD. Second, I wasn't surprised because she was a women, or a musician, or because she was part of the grunge scene. I know there are lots of smart women, and lots of smart women in music. I wasn't saying anything about a correlation between gender and intelligence or professions and intelligence. I was suprised because she's Courtney Love, and most of what I've read and…

My bad about Green Day -- it was the Offspring I was thinking about (can't blame me, they're almost interchangeable as bands). On the other hand, rockers with PhDs:

Dexter Holland from Offspring (molecular biology, but dropped out with a masters)

Greg Gaffin from Bad Religion (zoology, 2007)

Brian May from Queen (astrophysics)

James Lilja from Offspring (medical degree, not PhD)

Sterling Morrison from the Velvet Underground (medieval literature, 80s)

Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #8

I can't believe Courtney Love wrote this. I had a low oppinion of her, but this seems really well written. Also, she's a fan of Neal Stephenson? That quote almost makes me wonder if this were written by some nerd and attributed to her...

...because the wild women of grunge can't possibly have brains too? Disingenuous, my friend. There are famous rockers with PhDs (the guy from green day comes to mind).

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Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #8

I can't believe Courtney Love wrote this. I had a low oppinion of her, but this seems really well written. Also, she's a fan of Neal Stephenson? That quote almost makes me wonder if this were written by some nerd and attributed to her...

...because the wild women of grunge can't possibly have brains too? Disingenuous, my friend. There are famous rockers with PhDs (the guy from green day comes to mind).

I don't think the issue is that she's a wild woman from the era of grunge, but rather she was addicted to heroine and cocaine for a while.

Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...because the wild women of grunge can't possibly have brains too? Disingenuous, my friend. There are famous rockers with PhDs (the guy from green day comes to mind).

I don't think the issue is that she's a wild woman from the era of grunge, but rather she was addicted to heroine and cocaine for a while.

The two might go hand in hand...

Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

#15
post #5

See also: The Problem With Music by Steve Albini http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

Some good previous discussion about a few of these articles from a previous HN binge on them - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=971509

(including a terribly pithy remark from yours truly - who was I 583 days ago??)

Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

#16
post #7

Please don't editorialize in the submission title "Exactly how record companies screw over successful artists [2000]" would work just as well.

The submission title is the same as the title of the original Salon article. Or maybe I'm not picking up on undertone of sarcasm.

Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #6

Generally speaking, the creative industries are full of people and businesses that operate by screwing over creative people. They view creative people the way a miner views a resource in the ground: as something to be strip mined and then discarded. I've encountered raw contempt... in a sense they are jealous of the ability of creative people to be creative, and this fuels their desire to co-opt it and take some of t…

What $random industry doesn't operate by exploiting $random people? It's the same for programmers and rock stars, unless you go the DIY/startup route.

Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, I don't think anyone in Green Day has a PhD. Second, I wasn't surprised because she was a women, or a musician, or because she was part of the grunge scene. I know there are lots of smart women, and lots of smart women in music. I wasn't saying anything about a correlation between gender and intelligence or professions and intelligence. I was suprised because she's Courtney Love, and most of what I've read and…

My bad about Green Day -- it was the Offspring I was thinking about (can't blame me, they're almost interchangeable as bands). On the other hand, rockers with PhDs: Dexter Holland from Offspring (molecular biology, but dropped out with a masters) Greg Gaffin from Bad Religion (zoology, 2007) Brian May from Queen (astrophysics) James Lilja from Offspring (medical degree, not PhD) Sterling Morrison from the Velvet Unde…

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Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, I don't think anyone in Green Day has a PhD. Second, I wasn't surprised because she was a women, or a musician, or because she was part of the grunge scene. I know there are lots of smart women, and lots of smart women in music. I wasn't saying anything about a correlation between gender and intelligence or professions and intelligence. I was suprised because she's Courtney Love, and most of what I've read and…

My bad about Green Day -- it was the Offspring I was thinking about (can't blame me, they're almost interchangeable as bands). On the other hand, rockers with PhDs: Dexter Holland from Offspring (molecular biology, but dropped out with a masters) Greg Gaffin from Bad Religion (zoology, 2007) Brian May from Queen (astrophysics) James Lilja from Offspring (medical degree, not PhD) Sterling Morrison from the Velvet Unde…

Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter of Steely Dan and the Doobie Brothers has worked for NASA or the NSA on missile defense systems or something like that.

Re: Courtney Love does the math (2000)

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post #7

Please don't editorialize in the submission title "Exactly how record companies screw over successful artists [2000]" would work just as well.

The submission title is the same as the title of the original Salon article. Or maybe I'm not picking up on undertone of sarcasm.

the original title was different :)

He fixed it, thanks!

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