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Re: FaceTime on the web requires Chrome or Edge, no mention of Firefox

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Does Duo send H.264?

As far as I've read about Duo it seems to be AV1: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-duo-lyra-codec-better-... ...though I'm not sure whether they use it consistently.

How does this happen? AV1 encoding codec was still work in progress, and most chips don't support any hardware acceleration for this. Can we get reasonable frame rates on core CPU for av1 encoding already?

Re: FaceTime on the web requires Chrome or Edge, no mention of Firefox

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Keep giving money to a company that uses slave labour. What is the worst that can happen?

They do but who doesn't? Apple isn't different than any other tech companies.

That said, yes, the global south produces for west in slave like conditions and it's sad.

Re: FaceTime on the web requires Chrome or Edge, no mention of Firefox

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Keep giving money to a company that uses slave labour. What is the worst that can happen?

They do but who doesn't? Apple isn't different than any other tech companies. That said, yes, the global south produces for west in slave like conditions and it's sad.

Fairphone doesn't. Fairphone goes as far as giving percentage of phone sales to factory workers.

Re: FaceTime on the web requires Chrome or Edge, no mention of Firefox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do but who doesn't? Apple isn't different than any other tech companies. That said, yes, the global south produces for west in slave like conditions and it's sad.

Fairphone doesn't. Fairphone goes as far as giving percentage of phone sales to factory workers.

A percentage of phone sales always goes to factory workers in the form of wages...

Re: FaceTime on the web requires Chrome or Edge, no mention of Firefox

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It literally says "Users with non-Apple devices can join using the latest version of Chrome or Edge": does it mean users of Apple devices could join using Firefox?

Unlikely, that'd be a very weird restriction. I think they meant Apple users would just use the FaceTime app

On iOS devices the other "browsers" still host the same Safari web engine I believe. So in theory, it might work from Firefox on an iOS device.

If you didn't want to use the actual app already on such a device.

Re: FaceTime on the web requires Chrome or Edge, no mention of Firefox

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At a guess, codecs seem the most likely explanation. Firefox has a h.264 decoder, but not an encoder I think.

Why can't firefox invoke the system dll or libraries for H.264 encode/decode? Like many video players do. Why must every browser ship its own codec or even Unicode collection is beyond me.

Because of a long tradition of the system libraries being fucked.

All this stuff started in the days of Windows XP, which shipped with such a meagre selection of codecs you couldn't even play DVDs.

And the codecs you could download? Either they cost money (i.e. most users wouldn't have them), or they were dodging license costs by some questionable means, or they had bigger aspirations than just providing a mere codec (flash/realplayer/quicktime)

VLC arose out of that and became popular because, by ignoring the system codecs, it could actually play the damn file.

Re: FaceTime on the web requires Chrome or Edge, no mention of Firefox

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Fairphone doesn't. Fairphone goes as far as giving percentage of phone sales to factory workers.

A percentage of phone sales always goes to factory workers in the form of wages...

Well not always. For example not if you are a Uyghur muslim in china. Then you don't get anything while also getting sodomized with broom sticks. But hey you know, what shall we do, I guess lets just look the other way. Besides it's just cultural differences right?
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