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Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Re: Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Post by batuhanicoz »

evgen wrote: post #9
gentleman11 wrote: post #3

> All the user’s requests are then sent through two separate internet relays. The first assigns the user an anonymous IP address that maps to their region but not their actual location. The second decrypts the web address they want to visit and forwards them to their destination. This separation of information protects the user’s privacy because no single entity can identify both who a user is and which sites they vi…

We are all guessing at how it works, but if I were to try to translate that description I would guess that the first hop is used to anonymize the source address and it relays with an address that provides a region or country (so things like web site language or geo restrictions continue to work) but that the actual destination is encrypted to a key held by the second hop. The second hop passes along the generic IP ad…

At least for me geo detection is all over the place. Google thinks I'm in Bulgaria, rest of the ip2geo sites think I'm in SF.

I'm Turkey. You can actually pick if you want a close server or not but no country selection.

It also seems to use CloudFlare's network.

Re: Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Post by jacobajit »

I'm a little concerned about the new Safari interface [0], which very smoothly integrates the tab/address bar with page content. For example, the background color of the page flows behind the open tabs such that it looks like one unified interface, rather than browserchrome || pagecontent.

This is all great to experience as web apps increasingly take over the functions of native apps. It does help them feel more like first-class citizens, rather than plain documents pulled up through a program.

But it easily brings up new potential abuses by phishing sites, spammy notifications, and other bad actors. The new design seems to start breaking down the browser UI's Line of Death [1], at least in perception.

[0] https://www.apple.com/v/macos/monterey-preview/a/images/over... [1] https://textslashplain.com/2017/01/14/the-line-of-death/

Re: Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Post by ksec »

batuhanicoz wrote: post #11
evgen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are all guessing at how it works, but if I were to try to translate that description I would guess that the first hop is used to anonymize the source address and it relays with an address that provides a region or country (so things like web site language or geo restrictions continue to work) but that the actual destination is encrypted to a key held by the second hop. The second hop passes along the generic IP ad…

At least for me geo detection is all over the place. Google thinks I'm in Bulgaria, rest of the ip2geo sites think I'm in SF. I'm Turkey. You can actually pick if you want a close server or not but no country selection. It also seems to use CloudFlare's network.

>It also seems to use CloudFlare's network.

So basically Cloudflare Warp+?

Re: Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Post by asddubs »

ShinyNewFeature wrote: post #2

These are all great features. Wonder when Google will catch up? Seems like they are actually moving more in the opposite direction.

google is an advertisement company and advancing privacy features is against their self interest. this is the value of things like chrome to google

Re: Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Post by diebeforei485 »

> Users can also find out with whom their data may be shared by seeing all the third-party domains an app is contacting.

Finally! Hopefully this sunlight makes some of the cockroaches go away.

Yes, data can be shared server-side, but that reduces the economics of the tracking industry because of the added cost of bandwidth and complexity of supporting different server types instead of just an iOS SDK.

Re: Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Post by mark_l_watson »

jacobajit wrote: post #12

I'm a little concerned about the new Safari interface [0], which very smoothly integrates the tab/address bar with page content. For example, the background color of the page flows behind the open tabs such that it looks like one unified interface, rather than browserchrome || pagecontent. This is all great to experience as web apps increasingly take over the functions of native apps. It does help them feel more like…

I just installed iPadOS 15 beta tonight. It took a few minutes to get used to Safari changes, but now I like it.

Re: Apple advances its privacy leadership with iOS 15, iPadOS 15, macOS Monterey

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

how long before crony governments like India demand backdoor" into this network in the name of "national security" and "fighting heinous crimes of piracy" because now laws like DMCA don't really matter. a user watches a pirated movie on abc website. the lawyers of big movie company demand list of users who they want to go against for copyright strikes but the company now has no records a la lavabit.

same for india who has gone against cartoonists now because the ruling government is scared of its "image" being tarnished by cartoonists and they want to punish them wild west style. good luck sicking this against governments

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