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FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by rOOb85 »

dave5104 wrote: post #94
noja wrote: post #89

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Which means the other person knows it's me, right?

Might be troublesome if you don't want the other person to know it's you, though. But that's probably not a problem in day to day communication with family and friends.

> Might be troublesome if you don't want the other person to know it's you, though.

You're mixing privacy and anonymity. Signal offers privacy from snooping, they have never claimed or tried to provide anonymity. Two very different use cases.

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Post by gambiting »

derwiki wrote: post #165
yhoneycomb wrote: post #161

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Seriously why are Google video calls SO confusing and why do they change every year?

Google video engineers gotta justify that promo to Senior Staff

I honestly 100% feel like this is the main justification for all changes happening with Google products. I swear to god Google Photos changes the entire layout every year for no reason whatsoever. Whatever they change it to isn't better, just different. But the entire website has to be remodelled and your users have to learn the entire website again because.....someone on the UI team has to justify their 6 digit salary?

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Post by zepto »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #131
reaperducer wrote: post #120

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You want half assed? Not Apple's fault. See other replies in this thread that it was killed by a patent troll.

Why would Apple be afraid of patent trolls? If they wanted to release it as an open-specification, they could.

Why do you think Apple is immune to patent lawsuits? They have frequently had to settle them.

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Post by nexuist »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #131
reaperducer wrote: post #120

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You want half assed? Not Apple's fault. See other replies in this thread that it was killed by a patent troll.

Why would Apple be afraid of patent trolls? If they wanted to release it as an open-specification, they could.

It would obviously be useless if they released the spec for it but you couldn't use it to connect to existing FaceTime devices.

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Post by gsich »

reaperducer wrote: post #120
someonehere wrote: post #109

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You want half assed? FaceTime when it was announced by Steve Jobs, he himself up on stage said it would be open source. The developers in the front rows looked at each other and said, “did we say it would be open sourced?” It’s still not open sourced to this day.

You want half assed? Not Apple's fault. See other replies in this thread that it was killed by a patent troll.

A very lame excuse.

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Post by imwillofficial »

cargo8 wrote: post #146
Seanambers wrote: post #113

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I see from the responses that one thing that is omitted is the clearly higher audio/video quality. I had someone call me on facebook messenger, but had to ask them to call me on facetime purely because of quality, and its not the first time. As with all Apple products "it just works". I wonder if that may change when it goes to the web.

Duo and WhatsApp have significantly better video quality (especially off of Wi-Fi) than FaceTime

This is demonstrably false. WhatsApp is so bad it makes my eyes bleed.

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Post by joshuaissac »

SilverRed wrote: post #167
lotsofpulp wrote: post #129

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That would be amazing to me in the US, I assumed everyone had unlimited SMS/MMS/within the US phone calls. I have not shopped for mobile plans in over a decade though.

It varies by country. In Australia basically all phone plans have unlimited SMS but in places like south america and africa it seems common to charge huge rates for sms which is why whatsapp is so big over there.

Unlimited SMS allowances are common in the UK, but people still use WhatsApp instead of SMS.

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Post by madeofpalk »

avianlyric wrote: post #144
threatofrain wrote: post #68

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I don't think it's productive to equate the green/blue color thing with the accessibility or parity of experience between web apps and native apps. The green/blue distinction is very meaningful. It tells you whether your chats are encrypted, which is not a default to SMS technology. In fact it would be more honest or accurate for Apple to display a padlock to inform you that you're secure; instead we have colors.

The colours are definitely there to indicate who doesn’t have an iDevice. They predate iMessage being end-to-end encrypted, and predates Apples current privacy push. Additionally Apple senior leaders have got up on stage and joked about how people with green bubbles are second class friends. All of that together makes me think the bubble colours are primarily there to gently nudge people into getting their friends an…

> They predate iMessage being end-to-end encrypted

There was a time when iMessage was not end-to-end encrypted? I thought it launched like that on day 1.

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