FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web • Hacker News Board

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by dylan604 » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 8:47 PM UTC

kstrauser wrote: post #33

nso wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to get upper management involved once when trying to buy an Airport Express, because they wouldn't allow me to make a purchase at the Apple store without leaving my name and contact details.

It's ethically OK to lie in these situations. You think I gave Radio Shack my real PII whenever I wanted to buy a battery?

I've given out 212-555-1234 as my phone number to so many random places, that I've accidentally given it out when I didn't need to hide my real number.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by quux » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:00 PM UTC

twobitshifter wrote: post #28

Steve Jobs notably said FaceTime was built to be an open standard when he introduced it on June 7, 2010 .

This may be urban legend but I remember hearing that the first time the FaceTime team learned it was going to be an open standard was when Steve announced it on stage.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by p_l » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:01 PM UTC

twobitshifter wrote: post #28

Steve Jobs notably said FaceTime was built to be an open standard when he introduced it on June 7, 2010 .

That announcement came as big surprise to everyone other than Jobs, and then died of natural causes more so than because of any patent troll.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by dheera » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:02 PM UTC

commoner wrote: post #62

dannyw wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WhatsApp: Owned by a company that makes money invading your privacy. Duo: owned by a company that makes money invading your privacy.

Signal: developed by a non-profit organization, free and open source, end-to-end encrypted in all regions, no encryption key hosting arrangements with any government-owned third party firm

Signal: requires disclosing a phone number to everyone you use it with

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by sgt » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:03 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #3

But iMessages isn't, ensuring its continued irrelevance in countries that are not the United States of America.

Among iPhone users, iMessage is heavily used as it's simply the most pleasant solution out there for messaging. For what it's worth, I'm in South Africa and about 95% of my friends have iPhones. WhatsApp is very popular here, but for chatting I probably check WhatsApp three times a day, and I use iMessage almost continuously.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by Forbo » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:05 PM UTC

glogla wrote: post #78

commoner wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal: developed by a non-profit organization, free and open source, end-to-end encrypted in all regions, no encryption key hosting arrangements with any government-owned third party firm

Also developed by guy who is fighting against you being able to install it without involvement with a company that makes money by invading your privacy, who also has a history of working for companies making money invading your privacy.

Signal offers an APK that does not require the use of Google services.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by sgt » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

colesantiago wrote: post #59

It would be great if Apple introduced FaceTime for Plan 9 OS, that would be the only time I would use it IMO.

I heard they have a whole team on it. All ex Plan 9 developers

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by pier25 » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

marinhero wrote: post #11

Maybe this means Apple will bring iMessage to Android in a year or two just to mess with Facebook Messenger.

I agree. This seems like Apple is finally conceding it needs to bring FaceTime and Messages to Android and Windows, but it wants to do it slowly so that it looks like they don't care much.

BTW outside of the US, Whatsapp is (AFAIK) the most popular messenger. At least in the Western world. I don't know about China.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by noja » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

dheera wrote: post #84

commoner wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal: developed by a non-profit organization, free and open source, end-to-end encrypted in all regions, no encryption key hosting arrangements with any government-owned third party firm

Signal: requires disclosing a phone number to everyone you use it with

Which means the other person knows it's me, right?

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Post by olyjohn » Mon, Jun 07, 2021, 9:07 PM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #81

kstrauser wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ethically OK to lie in these situations. You think I gave Radio Shack my real PII whenever I wanted to buy a battery?

I've given out 212-555-1234 as my phone number to so many random places, that I've accidentally given it out when I didn't need to hide my real number.

Also just about everywhere... (xxx) 867-5309 works for rewards cards and things like that. Also at Walgreens, you can use (420) 420-4204. That was the number the cashier gave me there since I told them I didn’t have a rewards card.