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FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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WhatsApp: Owned by a company that makes money invading your privacy. Duo: owned by a company that makes money invading your privacy.

I had to get upper management involved once when trying to buy an Airport Express, because they wouldn't allow me to make a purchase at the Apple store without leaving my name and contact details.

It's ethically OK to lie in these situations. You think I gave Radio Shack my real PII whenever I wanted to buy a battery?

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Maybe this means Apple will bring iMessage to Android in a year or two just to mess with Facebook Messenger.

Apple could have brought iMessage to android at any time. They explicitly choose not to because of the social pressure to buy an iPhone this places on youth. This was pretty explicitly laid out in the Epic v Apple case.

That plan only worked in the US though, and it spectacularly backfired everywhere else, where iMessage is mostly irrelevant.

I know a guy that never set up iMessage on his iPhone - when I asked him why he didn't, he just told me he only uses SMS for OTP which he reads from the notification, so it never occured to him to open the Messages app at all.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Steve Jobs notably said FaceTime was built to be an open standard when he introduced it on June 7, 2010 .

And there is still seemingly zero expectation that FaceTime will be a standard. It's still a closed proprietary system. One that has web access to it now.

Will non-Apple device owners be able to start FaceTime chats? TBD perhaps. Will non-Apple account holders be able to connect to FaceTime rooms? Maybe. Will they be able to create chats? Almost certainly not.

It's unfortunate that the real spirit of creativity & innovation that Apple once believed in & knew has come to this. This is "progress", but such a narrow, corporately provided & limited window of progress, to me. I'm expecting friends will start expecting me to have an Apple account now & be willing to use their proprietary communications systems, now that the barrier is a bit lower, but I'd really rather not.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Steve Jobs notably said FaceTime was built to be an open standard when he introduced it on June 7, 2010 .

Close, he said they were going to make it standard (but then never did):

"Now, FaceTime is based on a lot of open standards — H.264 video, AAC audio, and a bunch of alphabet soup acronyms — and we're going to take it all the way. We're going to the standards bodies starting tomorrow, and we’re going to make FaceTime an open industry standard."

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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To be clear are you saying that a web user has no way to initiate a call? They can only join via one-time link to a call started by a user on Apple hardware?

That is correct So an Apple user creates a facetime call and sends the invite link to Android & Windows user. They then join on to the call using their browsers. Non iOS devices wont be able to make a call. The web interface is just a way to join a call.

So, unidirectional Zoom.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Maybe this means Apple will bring iMessage to Android in a year or two just to mess with Facebook Messenger.

Apple could have brought iMessage to android at any time. They explicitly choose not to because of the social pressure to buy an iPhone this places on youth. This was pretty explicitly laid out in the Epic v Apple case.

Yeah, green means kick whoever isn't using Apple out of the group chat. Apple basically promotes bullying of kids who don't have an iPhone.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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To clarify, this is FaceTime only (not iMessage) and can only be initiated by Apple users, not by Android or Windows users.

I see this as handy when dealing with someone less technical with an iOS device that doesn't know how to install other apps (parents/grandparents).

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