The new Dark Mode looks fugly.
Notepad++ v8 release
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Re: Notepad++ v8 release
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Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…
Electron is Flash for the Desktop. https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/ While I don't appreciate most of Apples business strategies, I have to admit that Steve Jobs was right about banning Flash. It was eating the battery runtime of MacBooks. And Steve Jobs would have banned[1] Electron probably already years ago, because it is consuming so much memory. But especially so many big tech companies…
Tried teams on Linux. Its terrible, my machine runs solidly, hardly ever restart it. I open teams, 80% of the time it will start up then the machine starts running slow, teams ui goes unresponsive and then whole machine locks up and i need to power off at the powee button. Only ever happens if I open teams.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…
Electron is Flash for the Desktop. https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/ While I don't appreciate most of Apples business strategies, I have to admit that Steve Jobs was right about banning Flash. It was eating the battery runtime of MacBooks. And Steve Jobs would have banned[1] Electron probably already years ago, because it is consuming so much memory. But especially so many big tech companies…
It's really like Groundhog Day, for those who are to young, we had Java-Apps (terrible slow in the early days), then massive web-apps and now electron, in the mean time every professional application stayed at TUI's (banks/insurance/booking-systems), it's the same with os-installers...do i really need a flutter based installer? No it's bullshit, just give me a well structured text installer, no gui needed for that job. Why is the Terminal still a thing when browsers are so much better at everything ;)
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
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Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…
> Spotify is a music streaming service. I don't understand this objection. Every time people say "software is slow today: compare Spotify to Winamp/Xmms", the objectiion is that Spotify isn't Xmms, it's a music streaming service. But so what? Why can't a music streaming service be fast to start up? It's already a thick client. My life isn't going to end if I can start playing music within milliseconds but the playlis…
The Spotify application displays album art as images in a screen.
They are relatively high resolution. That look good on my 4k screen.
How much ram do those decoded assets take up?
Your 8MB ram computer would not handle network streaming, decoding 320kbs/s audio, displaying a high resolution UI, etc.
The comparison is ridiculous.
There's a difference between today where people use 4k displays to back in the days when 1024x768 was high end. That's 10x the amount of pixels.
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Also your complaints seem to be about the speed of your internet connection.
The average person does not wait multiple seconds to play a song.
Reduce the quality of your streaming if you want it to be more responsive.
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Also your phone seems to be a bad phone.
Storage speed and CPU power are also factors in how fast a device runs software.
My 3 year old Note 9 works perfectly fine.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…
> Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. It means the memory and CPU consumption could be reduced had it was written using more lightweight framework like C#/.NET, C++, or something else, like PWA in browser instead of a full, seperate, single Chromium instance for one app.
Ultimately the performance loss means more productive developers and faster new features for applications.
Especially in a time when smartphones are the main platform for most consumers.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…
> It's using 160mb of ram And that is acceptable for a music player ???.
A standard length flac is easily 30mb and presumably the player keeps the current and potentially next in memory. Add in a few high res icons for album art and you can get 100mb before the UI... exists. It's great that Winamp could play your 128k mp3s and show your text only list in the 00s, but it's not like expectations haven't gone up in a way that contributes to memory use
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
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I'm surprised that there is any need for an explicit dark-mode, and that Notepad++ wouldn't just pick up the system colors; it's old enough that it was customary to do that, and use the system named colors instead of specifying RGBs for control colors.
There do not seem to be system colors defined for dark mode. Explorer does it via uxtheme but does not seem to expose the colors themselves. Plus it ends up being un-configurable.
Ideally, dark mode would just be an OS-wide palette switch, which is how it used to work. Probably still would, as I don't think that the guts of Windows have actually changed; you just can't get at them through the Control Panel easily like you used to do.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…
> Also what does "bloated election app" mean? It means (1) high memory usage (although people are ridiculously oversensitive about this relative to CPU use) (2) long startup times (3) high ambient CPU usage and (4) a high-latency interface (on average machines - anything is snappy on a brand-new $1k M1 Macbook Air). > and it's very responsive On what CPU? Will it still be responsive on a 8-year-old Core i5 on one of…
The problem is that your 8 year old ThinkPad is less powerful than a $300 smartphone.
Electron will be using GPU rendering.
What kind of GPU performance does your 8 year old laptop have?
Probably a minimum of 5x less performance than a smart phone.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…
> It's using 160mb of ram And that is acceptable for a music player ???.
Maximised on my 4k display I see 26 album arts which look high resolution. How much ram would that take decoded?
There's also the song data for what's playing now and next song.
You don't seem to understand what the application is doing.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
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> where all the features have been deleted We're never going to go back to the old days. Back then desktop computing was 100% of end user computing and everyone assumed all users end up as power users. Now desktop computing is ~30% of end user computing and shrinking and we realize that most people have absolutely no desire to become power users. It's not that they can't, they don't want to (think other interests, an…
Then what software is there for us who do wish to be power users? If it gets eliminated through atrophy, that is yet another example of market failure.
What type of program do you have in mind?