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Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by dlvktrsh »

Jonnax wrote: post #49
arsome wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…

Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…

right? sure there are a lot of buggy slow electron apps but isn't vscode built on electron too? that's the smoothest program on my pc right now

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by stevenicr »

qq4 wrote: post #71
HideousKojima wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Winamp 5.0 worked on a 400 mhz Pentium II with 64 MB of memory (total) and was crazy responsive, while also being capable of much more than the modern Spotify app

I remember using and liking Winamp, but I didn't use it for anything other than playing music files. How was/is Winamp more capable than the Spotify app?

The various visualization plugins were cool.

Streamripper.

Others can't remember atm. Good times hunting through the plugins and themes.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by squiggleblaz »

shawnz wrote: post #34
fnord123 wrote: post #30

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DDG uses Bing results.

Right, so shouldn't they have instead redirected to a provider which didn't have the issue, rather than another provider having the same issue?

That depends on your objection. If your object to the fact that no tank man results were shown, then yeah, maybe that's a fair argument. But if you object to the decision to remove tank man results, then it makes no sense to penalise Duck Duck Go for that. In fact, if you trust Duck Duck Go's authors more than Bing's, you might want to actively direct traffic to them in the hope that they can obtain enough users to become independent.

Even those who take ideological stands can object to purity. The FSF publishes the LGPL alongside the GPL and even has an exception to the GPL for GCC, to make it usable also by those who aren't fans of their position

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by toss1 »

BeFlatXIII wrote: post #93
account-5 wrote: post #27

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Sounds like you would like TreeSheets. http://strlen.com/treesheets/

Just the screenshots on the home page have me curious. I’ll have to poke around with this after work today. Thank you for sharing the link.

Looks quite interesting indeed! Thanks also to GP for sharing the link

So good to find focused, lightweight software that doesn't squander gigabytes to load.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by throw334542 »

GuB-42 wrote: post #75
_Microft wrote: post #12

"39. Remove Microsoft Bing from Notepad++ for Search on Internet command, due to its poor reliability." That's in response to the tankman problem btw. They now redirect people who have used Bing so far to DuckDuckGo. I am not sure what I should think of this. On one hand, it is understandable, on the other hand it shows disregard for the choice of their users. I would have understood if they had simply removed it fro…

Notepad++ author is using his software to push his political agenda. Although I dislike it, that's his right. If you dislike it too, there are less politicized alternatives, like PSPad. Just look at his blog https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/ lots of anti-mainland China comments as well as references to "Gilets Jaunes" (a protest movement in France), reaction to Islamic terrorism,... At some point he told that peopl…

I’m not really sure how I feel and I’m very curious what the reaction of others on HN will be.

For those that supported Basecamp and Coinbases’s “no politics” policy, would you also support “no politics” in open source software?

I guess it’s different since this is a single developer doing it for free, so they can do whatever they want. If someone objects, they can branch it.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by Nextgrid »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #106
HideousKojima wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Winamp 5.0 worked on a 400 mhz Pentium II with 64 MB of memory (total) and was crazy responsive, while also being capable of much more than the modern Spotify app

And it worked only on Windows

I bet it would work unmodified on Wine.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by fouric »

Jonnax wrote: post #49
arsome wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…

Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…

> Also what does "bloated election app" mean?

It means (1) high memory usage (although people are ridiculously oversensitive about this relative to CPU use) (2) long startup times (3) high ambient CPU usage and (4) a high-latency interface (on average machines - anything is snappy on a brand-new $1k M1 Macbook Air).

> and it's very responsive

On what CPU? Will it still be responsive on a 8-year-old Core i5 on one of my Thinkpads?

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by toastal »

rgry wrote: post #11

dark mode is not supposed to mean "full white on full black" :( monochrome icons also not really helping in readability/recognition so it's a "no" on both those most visible changes... but hey an update is an update and npp still rocks

With an OLED laptop panel, I actually appreciate #000 black. A lot of these dark themes look kinda bad on my screen, especially when they try to tint the grey like the blue GitHub adds. That said, I'll give it to Twitter for implementing dark and black as separate categories since we don't have @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) and (display-technology: oled)

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by lnl »

While I am happy that Notepad++ added a dark mode, I am frustrated that Microsoft forced Notepad++ (and all Windows programs) to add hacky workarounds for a dark mode.

Notepad++ already obeys the Windows system colors, and I have been using it in dark mode by changing Windows colors. Microsoft, presumably to sabotage classical programs and to push modern UWP apps, no longer allows changing system colors. There is a Windows 10 Dark Mode instead, and all it does it notify programs about its configuration, so that they redraw all their colors. A vestige of customizable system colors that remains is the (ugly) High Contrast Mode (activated with Alt+Shift+PrtSc); but if one can put up with its ugliness, it works much better than the Windows 10 Dark Mode, changing the theme for all well-written Windows programs, including all versions of Notepad++.

With the UWP mostly dead, I was hoping that they would start caring about "legacy" programs, but nope. Notepad++, as well as many other programs I use and contribute, saw that Windows was not fixing this and started adding their own patchy dark modes, which often don't work that well. I tested the new Notepad++ dark mode, to see maybe I can start using Dark Mode instead of High Contrast Theme. Unsurprisingly, many places (settings, dropdowns etc.) remain with white backgrounds; it is difficult to change all backgrounds as it was written with obeying system colors in mind, rather than manual theming. High Contrast Theme, however, works perfectly. Presumably those remaining white patches will be fixed as Notepad++ has an active community, but dozens of other old Windows programs I use will probably never bother with explicitly adding a dark theme, so I guess I will have to stick with the High Contrast Mode.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by stevenicr »

nindalf wrote: post #95
matsemann wrote: post #88

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That's kinda the point they're trying to make, though: That we had simple stuff that worked fine, now we have complex stuff that often don't.

Worked fine for who? I enjoy Spotify so much more than the good ol' days of foobar2000 and then like. - I can play any song or podcast that I want without ordering a CD (that I couldn't afford as a kid) or opening up a torrent client. - Curation is taken care of. Every song I've ever "liked" or added to a playlist is available on any of my devices, without me having to worry about syncing. - I can discover music simi…

I believe this is the important part "I want without ordering a CD (that I couldn't afford as a kid)"

Spotify makes it cheap to use without ownership - like uber basically - and millions do like that.

I blame the greedy music business that really didn't want to sell singles.

They've been forced to change - partially thanks to amazon and apple - but they embraced the change too late, and instead change was forced upon them.

The music biz could of made a version of limewire where people could pay for songs at a fair price and get top quality.. take advantage of the curation people were doing, and more - but they went to courts to block instead.

There's more than 2 kinds of people.

Some people voted with their wallets for MusicMatch Jukebox 7.1 - then yahoo took it, ruined it, then killed it.

Many people are voting with their wallets to borrow music from a fancy playlist company - that's cool -and I'm glad it exists. I prefer to own music that I can put on different devices myself and access anywhere anytime without an internet connection or worrying that my license key is not valid.

FI android did AirDrop I think the tide would be different. Amazon an excellent buy digital audio options (via computer) - sadly they make it very hard to download and own digital mp3s using the android app -

I get that some of these decisions are based on the whole - push them to the subscription /rent to use model where we win having lots of people who use it little.. but I prefer to download to the computer unzip and plugin a cable to transfer.

So while tech of the yesteryear is fine, some of the 'modern tech' is purposefully handicapping in some ways - and sometimes they are doing so to keep people hooked on drip-to-use-not-own-rent-forever models.

The good is that more people can enjoy more music - so yay spotify. The bad is that I don't think it's as good for the bands, and depending on the magic wifi can leave you high and dry when you need tunes the most - but at least you'll have a few dollars in your pocket :)

That rent and never own economy is good for some things, but it's not for everything for everybody.

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