I'm really happy that they implemented a dark mode. Hopefuly it will get a bit more customization so we can adjust the colors since the contrast is pretty harsh right now.
Notepad++ v8 release
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Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#102dark mode is not supposed to mean "full white on full black" :( monochrome icons also not really helping in readability/recognition so it's a "no" on both those most visible changes... but hey an update is an update and npp still rocks
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…
> Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. It means the memory and CPU consumption could be reduced had it was written using more lightweight framework like C#/.NET, C++, or something else, like PWA in browser instead of a full, seperate, single Chromium instance for one app.
You can build or port a web app to electron using mature and productive tools (html/css/boostrap/typescript/angular...god forbid React). What's more to say.
The compiled language ecosphere requires each their own set of tools for each platform. Beside electron the next best cross platform framework (xamarin forms) uses proprietryish UI document description (XAML) requiring the developer to work through another huge learning curve.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#104dark mode is not supposed to mean "full white on full black" :( monochrome icons also not really helping in readability/recognition so it's a "no" on both those most visible changes... but hey an update is an update and npp still rocks
That's the thing though with well developed apps: I think I also dislike the new icons. But it doesn't really matter, since the old ones are still there and I can continue using them.. The dark mode seems a bit buggy still and the contrast really is to stark, but I am hopeful these problems will be addressed with time. Not everything is always right at the beginning, but I am never afraid to update notepad++, which i…
Please let us know any bugs you encounter. A lot of dialogs and etc still do not support dark mode due to manual changes needed for each of them, unfortunately.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#105dark mode is not supposed to mean "full white on full black" :( monochrome icons also not really helping in readability/recognition so it's a "no" on both those most visible changes... but hey an update is an update and npp still rocks
I'm surprised that there is any need for an explicit dark-mode, and that Notepad++ wouldn't just pick up the system colors; it's old enough that it was customary to do that, and use the system named colors instead of specifying RGBs for control colors.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…
Winamp 5.0 worked on a 400 mhz Pentium II with 64 MB of memory (total) and was crazy responsive, while also being capable of much more than the modern Spotify app
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
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#108One thing I wish Notepad++ could do is to create a table document instead of the regular text document. Kind of like excel. It doesn't have to have any fancy formulas or anything like that, simply a grid with writeable cells. I love how lightweight it is and I like collecting notes in it. Data is better in a table rather than a text document though. I haven't checked recently whether such a thing might exist, but las…
I feel like I'm missing something here. What situations are you ending up in where it's a problem that "data" is mixed up together with text?
There's already multiple ways to express tables (or more correctly data structures) with text. You could write a Markdown table, as CSV, or a JSON object, or any of the other innumerable ways there are of structuring data "in text". I feel like any of these would be easier to use than mixing plaintext with some kind of table view.
Re: Notepad++ v8 release
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Can you give a few examples? I’m not using computers that long and don’t know in which way modern software is so frustrating.
Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…
Good cross-platform UI is hard, and web technology is seen as an "easy" way out because you can hire plenty of resources and yes -- it does seem silly to reinvent the wheel when HTML/CSS have implemented something already. Electron is basically the Java Applets/AWT/Swing of our time, because it lets teams prioritize features and delivery speed over great, performant, UX. And to be fair, for simple use cases, it's works well. But when you're at the level of MS Teams, I absolutely agree -- that app could be far better tuned. It actually runs much better inside a browser or in the native iOS app, which is a giant middle finger to Microsoft's platform ambitions -- it's like they're not even incentivizing people to take advantage of Windows.
Deleting or not including features is a separate "thing" though, I feel. Gnome had it with Nautilus, for instance -- it's definitely not solely an Electron thing. It's the "designer knows best" mentality that fails to strike a good balance between simplicity and customizability, and not taking the time to understand what users want.
Interestingly, Zoom (ignoring their various other issues) is a company that seems to do this well. They have a reasonably good UX to start with, but they don't shy away from offering more options and features if you so want. And they try to offer a decent native experience on Windows and iOS [I haven't tried them on macOS], as well as web, although of course the pure web experience could be far better. I think there's a lesson there for Microsoft, which got a good chunk of their lunch eaten by Zoom twice over (Skype and Teams, at least in video-conferencing -- Teams is of course quite successful in team collaboration) and also for browser-based Google Meet: ignoring good UX in favour of a lowest-common-denominator interface just creates space for competitors.