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Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by chrisan »

radmuzom wrote: post #48
zuhsetaqi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give a few examples? I’m not using computers that long and don’t know in which way modern software is so frustrating.

I can give you one to illustrate the point I am trying to make. When I first started working in 2005, we used to use Excel 2003. My first company gave me a modest desktop with 512MB RAM and old processor. Right clicking on a cell to format it, change font, etc. used to take few milliseconds at most and the window used to appear immediately after the click. Today I have a 16GB machine at work - doing the same operatio…

I'm sorry, but something is either up with your computer or the excel sheet you are currently using would be infinitely slower on that old 2005 machine.

I've been using computers since Apple IIe and am much happier with things today than versions of the past. There are certainly hiccups along the way, but no way am I going to trade what I have today for what I used in 80s/90s.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

#52

Post by [deleted] »

Ayesh wrote: post #42
Grumbledour wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do System colors even exist in windows 10? The option to set global color schemes seems to be long gone and Microsoft needed to spend extra effort to adapt a dark color scheme in explorer (It didn't support dark mode for a long time and then took some updates to work well across the board). I always find it kind of funny and sad at the same time, that something windows could do 20 years age now needs to be implemente…

Oh this brings memories of my Windows 98 tweaks and linear gradients in title bars. I'm afraid that's the peak of customizability and it's only going downhill in each operating system version.

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Re: Notepad++ v8 release

#53

Post by HideousKojima »

Jonnax wrote: post #49
arsome wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…

Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…

Winamp 5.0 worked on a 400 mhz Pentium II with 64 MB of memory (total) and was crazy responsive, while also being capable of much more than the modern Spotify app

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

#54

Post by whereistimbo »

Jonnax wrote: post #49
arsome wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…

Spotify is a music streaming service. These other apps are for curating your own audio files. Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point. I'm using the desktop app right now. It's using 160mb of ram and it's very responsive. Teams is just a bad application. A lot of shitty "enterprise" software is written in Java. If I started saying Java = Bad software. I'm sure…

> Also what does "bloated election app" mean? Because it seems like it's just a meme at this point.

It means the memory and CPU consumption could be reduced had it was written using more lightweight framework like C#/.NET, C++, or something else, like PWA in browser instead of a full, seperate, single Chromium instance for one app.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by Nerwesta »

arsome wrote: post #46
zuhsetaqi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give a few examples? I’m not using computers that long and don’t know in which way modern software is so frustrating.

Everything is now a bloated Electron app where all the features have been deleted. Try comparing Spotify to Amarok/Foobar/Clementine. Even Firefox seems to just keep stripping out useful functionality for power users for some bizarre reason, no more full themes, limited extension APIs, poor UI customization and less advanced features like "view image", it's like they're trying to alienate their most dedicated fanbase…

Damn Amarok is so good, the Windows app pale in comparison to this. I had a blast while I first installed my Kubuntu machine.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

#56

Post by Dort »

radmuzom wrote: post #48
zuhsetaqi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give a few examples? I’m not using computers that long and don’t know in which way modern software is so frustrating.

I can give you one to illustrate the point I am trying to make. When I first started working in 2005, we used to use Excel 2003. My first company gave me a modest desktop with 512MB RAM and old processor. Right clicking on a cell to format it, change font, etc. used to take few milliseconds at most and the window used to appear immediately after the click. Today I have a 16GB machine at work - doing the same operatio…

I assume you are not using Excel 2003 on your 16GB machine. May I ask which version of MS Office you are using?

If I have to believe this[1] thread, then Office 365 is now an Electron app, which would explain the slowness.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17300893

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by hyperman1 »

Aerroon wrote: post #18

One thing I wish Notepad++ could do is to create a table document instead of the regular text document. Kind of like excel. It doesn't have to have any fancy formulas or anything like that, simply a grid with writeable cells. I love how lightweight it is and I like collecting notes in it. Data is better in a table rather than a text document though. I haven't checked recently whether such a thing might exist, but las…

Not what you're asking, but...

ctr-alt-selecting enables rectangular mouse, or whatever notepad++ calls it. Selecting a 0 columns and multiple rows, then typing | | pipes and spaces lets you quickly create grid-like structures in text format.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by globular-toast »

radmuzom wrote: post #41

I wish we move back to the days when most software was like utorrent, notepad++, etc. The standard response to this statement is "but today's software does so much more" - to which I don't agree. As someone who has been using computers since 1994 - including machines which did not have a hard drive - modern software is very very frustrating to use in every way I can think of.

Most software is still like that on Linux/BSD. The glaring exception is web browsers, I suppose. But other than that, all the software I have installed does only one thing and doesn't try to own multiple aspects of my life.

Re: Notepad++ v8 release

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Post by galangalalgol »

chrisan wrote: post #51
radmuzom wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can give you one to illustrate the point I am trying to make. When I first started working in 2005, we used to use Excel 2003. My first company gave me a modest desktop with 512MB RAM and old processor. Right clicking on a cell to format it, change font, etc. used to take few milliseconds at most and the window used to appear immediately after the click. Today I have a 16GB machine at work - doing the same operatio…

I'm sorry, but something is either up with your computer or the excel sheet you are currently using would be infinitely slower on that old 2005 machine. I've been using computers since Apple IIe and am much happier with things today than versions of the past. There are certainly hiccups along the way, but no way am I going to trade what I have today for what I used in 80s/90s.

I've done side by side with excel98 and excel200x whenever they added the ribbon. The same spreadsheet was extensively slower both in the original format and after importing it to the new one. I wouldn't trade out either, because there is still good responsive software out there, but more resources let people get sloppy.
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