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Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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An Elon / Jeff space willy-waving contest about who gets to be Space Bro Alpha seems like a net win for humanity

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but surely taxpayers subsidizing billionaires’ rocket testing and allowing the gains to be privatized is a net loss for society, no?

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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American Oligarchs are certainly up to more interesting things than Russian ones at the moment!

Is that the new/modern definition of oligarch, or how oligarch is used in US? I dont see how Jeff or Elon are oligarchs in the sense of russian oligarchs.

What's the difference between an American oligarch and a Russian oligarch? Aside from the nationality.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I was a bit shocked how Jeff Bezos looked in the video [0] in which he invited his brother to go with him. He does not look healthy, even a bit bloated. Does anyone know if he is having health issues? [0] https://www.instagram.com/p/CP0MSOqnYEo/

My guess is that he stopped working out and now retired he put on lots of weight. Hopefully not health issues.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I was a bit shocked how Jeff Bezos looked in the video [0] in which he invited his brother to go with him. He does not look healthy, even a bit bloated. Does anyone know if he is having health issues? [0] https://www.instagram.com/p/CP0MSOqnYEo/

This is a picture from 2017:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos#/media/File:Jeff_Be...

Doesn't really look that different?

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I am somewhat uneducated on the topic but is space tourism a good idea? It is a flight to nowhere which surely has a hefty carbon cost. Doesn't it also add pollutants high up in the atmosphere? As exciting as it is to experience space I could imagine the environment cost is far from ideal.

Regular tourism is far worse.

In absolute numbers you're right because millions of people are tourists compared to a few wealthy space tourists. But that's a strange metric to use, the space tourists are part of the regular tourist group as well. If we compare energy usage per tourist the numbers will be stacked against space tourism.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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The Blue Origin "tourist rocket"[1] uses hydrogen as a fuel and oxygen as an oxidizer, so there are no direct emissions or pollutants. In general you are of course right. The top 1% will slightly increase their already large carbon footprint by a small amount. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Shepard

How many emissions and pollutants came from refining the hydrogen and oxygen though?

Is it done with electricity? In that case it would be whatever the grip offers and probably the 'd pay the premium for renewables to keep their image.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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Regular tourism is far worse.

Regular tourism is bad, but rocket tourism is a new kind of bad because it puts pollutants in the upper atmosphere and we really don't know what the effects of that will be. Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-air-poll...

New Shepard doesn't use solid fuel. Its exhaust is water.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I mean it would look bad if he wasn't aboard, wouldn't it? "Pay lots of money for my space ride [that I'm not going to actually go on myself]"

I don't know, does it look bad for Elon Musk to not go on SpaceX private flights? I would say it doesn't change much.

People generally dont expect Musk to go to the ISS on Crew Dragon - because he's not an astronaut. But if SpaceX start doing 'space tourism' aimed at general (if somewhat rich) consumers then it would be odd for Musk not to take a ride on that - dont you think?

Similarly Branson would be expected to have a go on his space tourism thing once it opens up to the public.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I am somewhat uneducated on the topic but is space tourism a good idea? It is a flight to nowhere which surely has a hefty carbon cost. Doesn't it also add pollutants high up in the atmosphere? As exciting as it is to experience space I could imagine the environment cost is far from ideal.

If you think the future of humanity is in space (I do, but opinions vary) then yes, space tourism is excellent and critical idea.

Generally it drives practical use cases, has a clear revenue model (which is really, really important to keep any complex financial and technical project honest) and drives popular demand for "space" in general. Having rich and famous tweeting orbital and translunar updates would do more for image of space travel than 50 years of science fiction and state advertising combined.

For example, low gravity has lots of well documented side effects. Even though short term microgravity is not too bad, having a constant stream of rich people travel there will create more demand for space medicine, which will probably drive innovation to improve the lot of all space travelers long term.

Launching stuff to orbit will have a carbon cost. And it should be tallied. But it's a cost we have to pay ANYWAY to become an interstellar species.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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They have done many successful flights. They just don’t have the marketing skills of someone like a Spacex.

BO has completed 15 test flights over 6 years of a platform that bears little comparison with SpaceX's achievements. Each BO test I've watched has been very well presented and seemingly marketed - it's just that at this point, frankly, what they're doing is of less interest than that what SpaceX has accomplished.

I agree with this thought. They've done a whole lot less boundary pushing than SpaceX.

The rationale for getting into the game seemed more like, "Well, this space thing seems like an emerging market, and we can't be a true monopoly unless we have a tentacle in it, too."

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