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Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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Pre-WFH, there were several groups of crows near my office covering distinct territories around my building. I made a habit of feeding and interacting with a few of these groups, every day for several months. Here are my experiences:

* I did indeed see a crow "anting" one time, and was initially as bewildered as the photographer in TFA. Surprisingly I was able to get much closer to the bird than they normally allow, but stepped back as soon as I saw it wasn't actually in distress.

* The best way to get close to a crow is to back up towards it; they are extremely wary of eye contact and will immediately become alert if you look at them or move towards them with your body facing forward. Over time, I used this method to get close to them and demonstrate that I wasn't a threat. I "trained" the crows to recognize that if they let me get close, I'll drop some food for them. After a while you don't have to do the backwards shimmy, but it's a good default strategy for approaching naturally skittish creatures.

* If you feed crows in exactly the same place every day, they will recognize you and fly to the "feeding spot". Crows pay very close attention to your movements and behaviors, and like most animals will try to develop a mental model to figure out when you're going to feed them. If presented with consistent causal behaviors, the birds will essentially train themselves.

* Crows are very sensitive to changes in appearance and behavior. I switched jackets one day and was met with immediate suspicion.

* My most fruitful experiment was right before the lockdown. I would stand in a specific location for a little while and watch the birds (watching them from a distance piques their curiosity and alertness to you). With them watching, I would pretend to plant food somewhere nearby and then move away. The crows would fly over, and I would immediately reward them. After a few weeks of this, I began gesturing towards nearby objects with my hand, and the birds would investigate the object immediately after I move away. After consistently rewarding this behavior, I was able to advance to "pointing to a semi-nearby object with my arm". One crow eventually figured out how to fly to the object I was pointing at, and I did a few successful tests to make sure the crow would fly specifically to the object I was pointing at, and not at some other nearby object. I have yet to train them to land on distant objects, but I'm hopeful!

* Crows like pistachios (they have multiple techniques for cracking the shell), and love cashews and peanuts (unsalted are best for the birds). They'll almost always opt for the "more convenient" snack, especially when they're competing with other crows. I try to reward the "bravest" crows first, by slowly moving away from the food pile until one crow moves in. Like other animals, crows also learn by observing the reward loop from a distance, and you can use this to get a large number of them to trust you.

* Crows are very curious when they feel safe, and it is mutually entertaining to set up unusual scenarios (such as hiding food inside or under tricky objects, like empty water bottles or closed paper containers).

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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Also in sports: https://xkcd.com/2022/

I laughed at the fictional dentist supposedly named "Crentist" in the Office, then I remembered the largest scam in recent history was by Bernie Madoff.

I knew a real dentist named Rex Pain. Rex means King. He was the king of pain.

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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I live in a place where I get to witness epic battles between a murder of crows and a colony of seagulls on a daily basis this time of the year. The seagulls are nesting on the roofs of nearby houses. The crows are trying to eat the seagull hatchlings. It's kind of fascinating to watch. It seems like the crows are trying new strategies every new day. The much larger seagulls are wasting lots of energy in a kinda stup…

Crow are the full embodiment of "evil genius".

They are thought to have come from little Australian songbirds who came on hard times like everything else when their environment went full desert on them, unlike the other nice birds that accepted their doom they leveled up and started eating their neighbors eggs for extra protein and fewer competitors it has been a remarkable successful strategy and they (like us) took it on the road and spread around the globe

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also in sports: https://xkcd.com/2022/

I laughed at the fictional dentist supposedly named "Crentist" in the Office, then I remembered the largest scam in recent history was by Bernie Madoff.

Our local used-car dealer is Dick Witham.

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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I live in a place where I get to witness epic battles between a murder of crows and a colony of seagulls on a daily basis this time of the year. The seagulls are nesting on the roofs of nearby houses. The crows are trying to eat the seagull hatchlings. It's kind of fascinating to watch. It seems like the crows are trying new strategies every new day. The much larger seagulls are wasting lots of energy in a kinda stup…

i got to witness a murder of crow harassing 2 bald eagles until the eagles just gave up and left. we’re not even talking a lot. There were maybe 6-7 crows. The theory I heard is the bald eagle(s) could easily take them on but they risk injury and the crows will try to mess them up. So the eagles just don’t risk it and move on + hunt things that don’t fight back (like rabbits). also, I can swear that crows taunt my do…

Around here (BC, Canada) you'll see a single crow chasing away a bald eagle. They get very aggressive when they're protecting their nests.

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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I live in a place where I get to witness epic battles between a murder of crows and a colony of seagulls on a daily basis this time of the year. The seagulls are nesting on the roofs of nearby houses. The crows are trying to eat the seagull hatchlings. It's kind of fascinating to watch. It seems like the crows are trying new strategies every new day. The much larger seagulls are wasting lots of energy in a kinda stup…

i got to witness a murder of crow harassing 2 bald eagles until the eagles just gave up and left. we’re not even talking a lot. There were maybe 6-7 crows. The theory I heard is the bald eagle(s) could easily take them on but they risk injury and the crows will try to mess them up. So the eagles just don’t risk it and move on + hunt things that don’t fight back (like rabbits). also, I can swear that crows taunt my do…

The phenomenon of multiple prey animals swarming larger predators to drive them off is known as mobbing.[0] Crows seem to do it quite readily. Very cool that you got to see it!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobbing_(animal_behavior)

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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Pre-WFH, there were several groups of crows near my office covering distinct territories around my building. I made a habit of feeding and interacting with a few of these groups, every day for several months. Here are my experiences: * I did indeed see a crow "anting" one time, and was initially as bewildered as the photographer in TFA. Surprisingly I was able to get much closer to the bird than they normally allow,…

You might enjoy the Crow Bros subreddit if you haven’t already stumbled upon it.

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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People can try anting too. Do you want to try and report back to HN with your findings?

Before cosmetics were available, some people stuck their face to an ants nest, I think the theory was that that could help peeling dead skin.

With ants

Re: Photographer captures 'odd but exciting' crow behaviour known as anting

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Crows actions are on par or exceed Octopus level of smartness "Smart Crow uses cars to crack nuts in Akita, Japan" https://youtu.be/NenEdSuL7QU "Are Crows the Ultimate Problem Solvers?" https://youtu.be/cbSu2PXOTOc

Imagine if they started crossbreeding
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