Apple’s tightly controlled App Store is teeming with scams

Post by rawtxapp » Sun, Jun 06, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

enos_feedler wrote: post #187

matheusmoreira wrote: post #157

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> I also think it would open a whole can of worms Absolutely. Apple should be afraid of holding the gatekeeper position. Anyone should. When people can install and use whatever they want, safety becomes their responsibility. They should open up their platform and let people do their own due dilligence. If they assume that responsibility and then neglect it, they absolutely can and should be blamed for any problems.

If Apple gave up the gatekeeping position, I would be afraid to use my phone for the things I do today.

Post by matheusmoreira » Sun, Jun 06, 2021, 9:10 PM UTC

dev_tty01 wrote: post #190

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It doesn't. It absolves Apple of any responsibility in the matter.

Why does anyone want to help Apple? Shouldn't we be focused on user safety?

Post by actuator » Sun, Jun 06, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

Ericson2314 wrote: post #129

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I have sympathy for the person in this story, but I think shifting the blame to Apple in this case is ludicrous. I'm still somewhat shaking my head that someone went through all of the trouble of using a hardware wallet, and then entered his key words into the first app he downloaded. If anything I think this story is just a prime example of why irreversible crypto transactions are an absolute nightmare for the gener…

The problem isn't that Apple should be responsible and isn't, the problem is Apple is extremely paternalistic but in a way where it gets all the powers but skirts all the responsibilities. If the responsibility is too impossible (and I'm fine saying that it is), then their paternalism shouldn't be called out and their reputation knocked down a rung or two. Instead, they get to keep a reputation which is far better th…

Post by tobr » Sun, Jun 06, 2021, 9:41 PM UTC

rawtxapp wrote: post #2

The worst thing is, people have this belief that Apple is somehow protecting them, so they offload the critical thinking to Apple and lower their own guards. For example, a person thought he was getting a legitimate Bitcoin wallet app, but turns out it was a fake and he lost his life savings [1]. edit: to be clear, I'm not blaming Apple for not stopping these scams, at their scale, it's just practically impossible to…

Post by drusepth » Sun, Jun 06, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

nwienert wrote: post #169

matheusmoreira wrote: post #157

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> I also think it would open a whole can of worms Absolutely. Apple should be afraid of holding the gatekeeper position. Anyone should. When people can install and use whatever they want, safety becomes their responsibility. They should open up their platform and let people do their own due dilligence. If they assume that responsibility and then neglect it, they absolutely can and should be blamed for any problems.

Yes and likewise, car manufacturers should remove seatbelts and airbags. They simply encourage reckless driving, and by giving the false sense of security / assuming the gatekeeper role, they should be liable for any accident.