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Using a magnetic string to fish for a lost iPhone 12 in a Berlin canal

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Re: Using a magnetic string to fish for a lost iPhone 12 in a Berlin canal

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Post by Dylan16807 »

bostik wrote: post #200
mgkimsal wrote: post #185

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> feel like if you had 900k in cash, and no debts, you could easily live freely. Maybe not the ultimate lifestyle, but pretty comfortably, even in the US. That's around 50k a year in investments. It's still cutting it very close. 900k in cash will go by faster than expected due to inflation. A single person in a rural or low COL area for under $2k/month between rent/food/utilities. This isn't really leaving much room…

Since my comment triggered a real discussion, I wanted to share some of my thoughts on the subject. For what it's worth, my own views are probably on the fringe side. To start with, when I say "financially fully independent", I'm not talking about a fixed amount. Instead I'm eyeing a figure that allows you to live comfortably (but not lavishly) with a family, in the place of your choosing, and not have to ever touch…

And as a comparison point, if you take the term 'millionaire' from when it became popular and try to adjust for inflation you get a threshold of around 30M. Which seems about right for "permanent lavish lifestyle, times two".

Re: Using a magnetic string to fish for a lost iPhone 12 in a Berlin canal

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Post by laumars »

ubercow13 wrote: post #187
laumars wrote: post #113

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Why? I’m not saying you’re wrong per se but you offer a stern dismissal without any reason nor alternative. For what it’s worth, I think the GP makes a pretty common opinion. For example people on lower incomes will do more household jobs themselves because it saves them money, whereas people on higher incomes will pay people to do things because it saves them time. The opinion might be dressed up differently when I…

Putting a valuation on one’s time is not unreasonable but assuming every hour of your life is worth the same as the equivalent hourly rate of your salaried job kind of is? Or at least it’s overly simplistic. Not every hour of your life is fungible like that.

It is overly simplistic. But equally if you’re paid less then a car wash you’d probably want to wash the car yourself.

There is going to be a line drawn somewhere that equates to “yes this is worthwhile expense” and “no, I’m better off doing that myself”. While I acknowledge that line is going to be variable depending on how much one likes or loaves a particular activity, equating the cost of outsourcing to your own rate of pay isn’t an unreasonable approximation for where that line should reside.

Re: Using a magnetic string to fish for a lost iPhone 12 in a Berlin canal

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Post by mschuster91 »

ascari wrote: post #188
mschuster91 wrote: post #112

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> People don't realise how high incomes in the US are relative to the rest of the world. Gross definitely, but net (after taxes, healthcare, housing and other fixed costs)... not so sure. High CoL - seriously even as someone who lives in Munich, US housing prices are utterly incomprehensible , just how the fuck do y'all even manage to survive?! -, high costs for transportation, the utter madness that is US healthcare…

I can’t speak for other fields but tech scene in Germany and EU is a joke and there is no way one’s compensation matches US. I had a job offer in Munich and considering how low the quality of housing is you end up still paying more than €1300 for a 1 bed flat. (This was my market search back in 2018)

What the fuck, were you searching at Marienplatz in the city center? I mean, I'm a born and raised Munich dude, 1300€ for a 1BR sounds like someone attempted to rip you off - or you were on the hunt for a fully furnished apartment which is ... a questionable decision in itself.

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Post by diydsp »

pbueckle wrote: post #76
thih9 wrote: post #66

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Could someone translate?

"geplumst" is the funny part here, it's very colloquial, kinda silly-sounding, playful – similar to "plumped". Just makes the whole sentence more delightful.

it also rhymes with "gebumst" which means "banged" or "fucked"...

Re: Using a magnetic string to fish for a lost iPhone 12 in a Berlin canal

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Post by ska »

pvaldes wrote: post #170
lostlogin wrote: post #81

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Absolutely. The engineer with the laptop had a brain fade - his area was usually CT. As magnets have got better control over their fringe fields, the issue has got worse. The field goes from nothing to 3T in a very short distance, so 10+ T/m rate of change is not uncommon.

Not everybody has access to Computer Tomography machines but lets examine a more common situation. Moving our magnet to the fishing area. Lets imagine that we put, not a magnetic string, a standard size neodymium magnet for fishing in the front seat of our car... or we move it in the car trunk (but forgot that our car has the battery located inside the trunk (as several BMW or VOLVO models do, for example). What coul…

There are basically two purely EM mechanisms at work for large static fields. First, if the field is big enough, it will saturate components that rely on EM effect to work - these will stop functioning until they are removed from the field. Permanent damage possible if other components behave badly in this situation.

The other thing is if you move in the field you will induce currents on anything like a conductive loop in your device. Damage potential is really dependent on the strength, speed of motion, and how sensitive your device is.

Of course, if you have magnetic materials, mechanical damage is also possible.

I suspect those fishing magnets fall off fast enough you'd have to get it lined up just right to a control board to see any effect, if then.

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Post by DavidAdams »

thirsteh wrote: post #120
tj-teej wrote: post #118

Maybe this is a naive question: but I remember growing up there was a hard and fast rule that you could not have magnets anywhere near your technology, is this not the case anymore? Was it only floppy-disks and disk based tech which had issues?

Yeah, there are not many moving parts now. It messed with read heads in HDDs as well as CRT monitors. I still get nervous if there are magnets around cause I don't know how they work.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/miracles-fucking-magnets-how-...

Re: Using a magnetic string to fish for a lost iPhone 12 in a Berlin canal

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Post by jhugo »

walrus01 wrote: post #157
jhugo wrote: post #152

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The phone is IP68, so I would think the conductivity of the water is not a major concern unless there is some mechanical damage that impacts the waterproofing

The lightning or USB-c connector on a phone has voltage present, and exposed copper like that plus salt water surely isn't a good combination. Without making an ip68 rated twist lock huge charger connector I don't see how the port itself can be waterproofed.

The IP68 rating applies to the entire device, it doesn't exclude the charging port.

These connectors are well-protected against complete shorts (e.g. people sticking a piece of metal into the port). Both Lightning and USB-C have protocol negotiation at low-voltage/low-current before any meaningful current will be delivered by either side.

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