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3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by afiori »

tolbish wrote: post #100
afiori wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_birdwatching_inci... > Christian asked Amy to leash her dog, and she allegedly refused. By his own account, Christian then said, "Look, if you're going to do what you want, I'm going to do what I want, but you're not going to like it," and beckoned the dog toward him with a dog treat.[3] Amy then yelled, "Don't you touch my dog!"[3] Christian then began recor…

The wiki article I responded to stated she was charged with filing a false police report.

Yes, I agree that she was, I also do not hold against anyone for believing the story had no further nuances.

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Post by alisonkisk »

boplicity wrote: post #183
mensetmanusman wrote: post #6

“ That’s contributed not only to increased drone activity, but also to more dogs and bicycles on the trails – all of which are prohibited. “We’ve seen a significant increase in dogs, particularly off-leash,” Loebl said. “That’s devastating for wildlife and this is prime nesting season. The dogs chase the birds and the birds abandon their nests.” Another problem is the development of multimillion-dollar homes on the h…

If I were to poop in someone's front yard, I might go to jail. Yet, people constantly encourage human-sized pooping in my front yard -- every single day -- without any consequence at all. Why do dogs get away with behaviour that would be blatantly offensive if done by a person?

Did you know that insects, birds, and squirrels poop on your lawn too?

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Post by alisonkisk »

saurik wrote: post #205
julianlam wrote: post #191

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At least where I live, it is a bylaw offense to not scoop after pooping. Not that it ever can be enforced, unless you happen to have your doggy do its business on the bylaw officer's front lawn, but it's a bylaw nonetheless.

Just to verify--I am not taking a stance on this and I could see going either way--the idea is then that I can poop on your front yard as long as I "scoop"?

You can use a toilet. Dogs can't. Yes, it's an inconsistency. Socialization matters.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by wyager »

finiteseries wrote: post #206
globular-toast wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given what response? It was my point.

The dozen or so mistakenly angry replies and downvotes. If that is your point, it isn’t at all obvious from your comment.

The fact that the average HN voter can’t read isn’t evidence that the GP meant something.

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Post by dang »

ramphastidae wrote: post #9
chmod775 wrote: post #2

On one hand that sucks. On the other hand, given their alleged response to disturbances, how aren't these birds extinct yet? This makes me somewhat skeptical of this story.

Really? You are “skeptical”? Did you even read the article? It’s a nesting island on a dedicated ecological reserve. This has likely been happening there for decades or centuries.

Could you please not be a jerk in HN comments or otherwise break the site guidelines? It's not the first time you've done this, unfortunately, and we're really trying for something different here.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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Post by ArkanExplorer »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #81
ecf wrote: post #73

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As someone in their 20s I’ve already come to terms with just how much wildlife I’ll never be able to see because previous generations decided to absolutely destroy the planet.

As someone in their 20's you are also likely lamenting the lack of affordable housing. One way to address it is to build more housing which which disrupts wildlife. Without affordable housing you might delay having children and getting married like I did. Wait too long and you might never be able to see your children or grandchildren because you won't have them. Reframing it that way might reduce resentment and ameli…

The best way to address it is to restrict immigration, so that the demand isn't there in the first place.

For example the USA could end its refugee intake program (which Biden has increased by 50,000/year to 62,500) - which alone will bring in a Wyoming's worth of people over the next 9 years.

Secondly to limit immigration only to other highly developed countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Dev... And to persecute and physically prevent all unauthorised arrivals.

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Post by thatguy0900 »

cjensen wrote: post #106

I'm a birder, so some extra info... On dogs, training and leashes only matter a little. The problem is birds immediately identify a dog as a dangerous predator. They are far less bothered by humans. Birds pay more attention that we might realize. They identify potential threats from much farther away that we do. This leads to them being disturbed even when the casual rule-breaking dog walker thinks "I'm not doing any…

How do these birds exist in the wild if a single predator sighting causes them to abandon their eggs? Edit: I'm downvoted, so this is a legitimate question. How could it be that these birds have lasted when one predator causes the abandonment of 3000 eggs? Has no predator ever appeared on these islands?

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Post by aaron695 »

I guess if a bunch of human believe a 'drone crash' can scare off a huge sanctuary of birds, it's possible a bunch of birds might believe a drone crash is a something something.

Originally it was 1,500 eggs, then 2,000 then 3,000.

The photo looks under 1000 - https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/heraldextra.com...

800 eggs abandoned is still a story, but if they told the truth of what they know, perhaps the real cause might be easier to see. I'd guess to was 3,000 birds original now it's 3000 eggs.

The Gizmodo photo was take in the Bahrain - [1] -https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/06/frightened-terns-abandon-... [2] https://www.gettyimages.com.au/search/2/image?phrase=Fasht+a...

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Post by ramphastidae »

dang wrote: post #215
ramphastidae wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? You are “skeptical”? Did you even read the article? It’s a nesting island on a dedicated ecological reserve. This has likely been happening there for decades or centuries.

Could you please not be a jerk in HN comments or otherwise break the site guidelines? It's not the first time you've done this, unfortunately, and we're really trying for something different here. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Sure, sorry about that.

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Post by fugfjj »

offbynull wrote: post #207
fugfjj wrote: post #145

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A little dog once nipped my 90 year old grandpa in his porch. My grandpa responded with a swift kidney blow from his cane. The owner looked furious but caught me staring him in the eye in time to recompose himself and get off of our front yard. The bloody nerve. You have your dog take its daily piss on our wall - a wall that my grandma cleans, btw. The dog takes its daily piss and my grandpa decides to ignore it, but…

Had you or your grandparents thought about maybe first asking the owner to keep the dog off the property? Maybe conveying to the owner that your grandmother has been cleaning the wall and (I'm assuming) you and your family aren't a fan of dogs.

Im going to go on a limb here and guess you're not from a third world country? My grandparents got burglarized on average once per year. “Asking” Argentines to politely respect private property is cute.

That being said, my grandpa ignored the pissing. The kidney blow was in response to the nip. And the dog got lucky: the old man spent his life building roads in guerrilla infected mountains.

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