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Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by julianlam »

boplicity wrote: post #183
mensetmanusman wrote: post #6

“ That’s contributed not only to increased drone activity, but also to more dogs and bicycles on the trails – all of which are prohibited. “We’ve seen a significant increase in dogs, particularly off-leash,” Loebl said. “That’s devastating for wildlife and this is prime nesting season. The dogs chase the birds and the birds abandon their nests.” Another problem is the development of multimillion-dollar homes on the h…

If I were to poop in someone's front yard, I might go to jail. Yet, people constantly encourage human-sized pooping in my front yard -- every single day -- without any consequence at all. Why do dogs get away with behaviour that would be blatantly offensive if done by a person?

At least where I live, it is a bylaw offense to not scoop after pooping.

Not that it ever can be enforced, unless you happen to have your doggy do its business on the bylaw officer's front lawn, but it's a bylaw nonetheless.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by throwaway803453 »

nielsbot wrote: post #187
throwaway803453 wrote: post #95

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My last girlfriend picked me up in San Diego and we drove 6 hours to Tucson after we had been apart for about a month. During the drive with her two dogs she told me while I was away there was an incident where her dog mauled a smaller dog and then bit the owner's face when she bent over to rescue her small dog. Her take away was pride as she was smart enough to just run off with her dog implying an idiot like me wou…

OT, but you dodged a figurative bullet

The real PSA here is that sex can be insanely powerful. Had we not separated for a month, I would have married her since there would have been no preceding window of clarity. After that 6hr drive I ended the relationship and did not accept her friends with benefits counter-offer.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by treeman79 »

swader999 wrote: post #186
adriancr wrote: post #160

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There are special places to let dog off leash to run around... Or buy a house with a yard

In some places they are aptly named "off leash parks".

Those are full of drama.

Someone’s dog gets bitten every week or so and it’s a huge outrage.

Periodically a little dog goes into the big dog area and gets torn to shreds.

Now I have used same locations many times without issues. But it happens.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by dathinab »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #95
fnord77 wrote: post #23

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people with dogs off-leash are extremely inconsiderate. they're also the type to get hostile and even violent if you say anything

My last girlfriend picked me up in San Diego and we drove 6 hours to Tucson after we had been apart for about a month. During the drive with her two dogs she told me while I was away there was an incident where her dog mauled a smaller dog and then bit the owner's face when she bent over to rescue her small dog. Her take away was pride as she was smart enough to just run off with her dog implying an idiot like me wou…

As a side note: Do not ever go into between two dogs fighting, even if both dogs know you and are normally super team.

It's not just a risk for you but can also make the dogs involved more aggressive.

Furthermore most dogs (which do not have mental issues or are badly wrongly trained) normally won't kill or majorly injure the other dog but mainly make it submit. But if you step in thinks can still escalate.

Lastly the problem are not dogs of the leach, but people not training their dogs properly (and often not understanding/ignoring that they don't train their dog properly). Or people buying dogs which are bread (and potentially even trained) to be super aggressive. Which IMHO is a no-go and requires the dog to muzzled nearly always outside of private properties (through ONLY for this dogs bread to be aggressive, e.g. for dog fighting).

I have been in areas where dogs are allowed to be of the leach frequently and is generally not a problem, most dog holders living around where I live do not use a leach when walking their dogs in the evening and it's not a problem.

EDIT: Wrt. the main thread, if you dog is properly trained you can have it walk alongside you without a leach even with birds close by and it won't run to the birds. A lot of dogs I meat are good but not hat good trained so while there really is no reason to put them on the leach in the city or common German forest areas you would put them on the leach if you enter a area with e.g. ground breading birds.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by dghughes »

fnord77 wrote: post #23
mensetmanusman wrote: post #6

“ That’s contributed not only to increased drone activity, but also to more dogs and bicycles on the trails – all of which are prohibited. “We’ve seen a significant increase in dogs, particularly off-leash,” Loebl said. “That’s devastating for wildlife and this is prime nesting season. The dogs chase the birds and the birds abandon their nests.” Another problem is the development of multimillion-dollar homes on the h…

people with dogs off-leash are extremely inconsiderate. they're also the type to get hostile and even violent if you say anything

There's a new fenced dog park near me. Lately people have been going there but letting their dogs off leash in the filed next to the park. There are many new homes and lots of kids in the area. It's maddening.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by [deleted] »

globular-toast wrote: post #128
acomjean wrote: post #45

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I live near a wildlife refuge. They allowed dogs on leash for many years. But fewer and fewer complied. About 5 years ago after trying all sorts of signage they banned dogs altogether. I feel bad for the small minority of dog owners who complied and kept their dogs on-leash

What's the point of walking a dog on a leash, though? Dogs need to stretch their legs. They're supposed to run around. The underlying problem is people taking in animals as pets without taking the responsibility that should be required as a dog owner.

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Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by globular-toast »

Xylakant wrote: post #141
globular-toast wrote: post #128

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What's the point of walking a dog on a leash, though? Dogs need to stretch their legs. They're supposed to run around. The underlying problem is people taking in animals as pets without taking the responsibility that should be required as a dog owner.

A dog needs to run, but not all the time and in all places. Walking on a leash is a required skill unless you live in a very remote area that you never leave.

Just leave the dog at home. My point is why take the dog somewhere if you can't let it off the leash? Jeeze... Touched a nerve here it seems.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by globular-toast »

finiteseries wrote: post #182
wyager wrote: post #174

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His point is obviously that that is not an appropriate place to walk a dog at all.

Given the response, it’s obviously not.

Given what response? It was my point.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by gambiting »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #113
banana_maker wrote: post #94

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Thanks to inflation and skyrocketing tuition, etc, things are different for this generation. This isn't perpetually blaming each past generation; it's specifically blaming the boomer generation. Our "poisons" are home ownership being out of reach for a significant chunk of the population (therefore tossing money away instead of building wealth like previous generations), and our environment being destroyed with the h…

Agreed. No one's arguing you didn't get a shit deal. At least I hope no one is arguing that. But that doesn't mean the previous generation got a better deal. When my Dad bought our first home the interest rate was over 10%. And how did he pay for college ? He had to fight in a war and then work at the military morgue. He never recovered from this. I am not trying to win an argument here. It's human nature to focus on…

Also not everyone had the luck to be growing up in rich western countries. My "boomer" parents grew up under communism, you know what they had at my age? Absolutely nothing. Definitely no wealth building to speak of, no amazing opportunities, good job existed if the government granted you any.....compared with them, my generation has it extremely good.

And then you go on the internet and read how the post WW2 generation fucked everyone over - like....in US, sure. In the former Soviet block? Not so much.

Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California

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Post by kbshacker »

smichel17 wrote: post #184
lobotryas wrote: post #136

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Go buy a few private acres for that. If your dog shares public space with others you don’t get to just let it off leash.

I'm American, but I've lived in Germany (Hamburg) for ~1 year, cumulatively. I recall most dogs being leashed, but at least a few not. It didn't seem to matter to me, because every dog there was damn well trained. In that year, I think can recall one instance of a dog barking inappropriately (to the mortification of its owner). I remember one dog in particular, which was unleashed and running with its owner, who was…

It's exactly the same in Switzerland. Dogs are so well behaved I wonder if they are a special breed altogether
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