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Typified in the viral ‘Central Park Birdwatching Incident.’ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_birdwatching_in...
I'm guessing she blamed cancel culture and the woke left for losing her job/dog instead of blaming her racism and foolishly filing a false police report.
3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
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I frequently walk my dogs without leash. They follow my command, don't disturb other people or dogs unless both parties engage and generally I don't do anything that someone who has a leash wouldn't be doing. They also walk side-by-side with me when off-leash. This is very common in the city I live and surrounding area (Barcelona, Spain and Catalunya). Both me and others without leashes are indistinctive from people…
To me the issue isn't generally having a dog off the leash, but specifically having a dog off the leash at a wildlife reserve where they may be running around disturbing the wildlife. It isn't a dog park.
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#73“ That’s contributed not only to increased drone activity, but also to more dogs and bicycles on the trails – all of which are prohibited. “We’ve seen a significant increase in dogs, particularly off-leash,” Loebl said. “That’s devastating for wildlife and this is prime nesting season. The dogs chase the birds and the birds abandon their nests.” Another problem is the development of multimillion-dollar homes on the h…
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people with dogs off-leash are extremely inconsiderate. they're also the type to get hostile and even violent if you say anything
I frequently walk my dogs without leash. They follow my command, don't disturb other people or dogs unless both parties engage and generally I don't do anything that someone who has a leash wouldn't be doing. They also walk side-by-side with me when off-leash. This is very common in the city I live and surrounding area (Barcelona, Spain and Catalunya). Both me and others without leashes are indistinctive from people…
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
I frequently walk my dogs without leash. They follow my command, don't disturb other people or dogs unless both parties engage and generally I don't do anything that someone who has a leash wouldn't be doing. They also walk side-by-side with me when off-leash. This is very common in the city I live and surrounding area (Barcelona, Spain and Catalunya). Both me and others without leashes are indistinctive from people…
Every stereotype of the off-leash dog owner on display here. Leash your dog. To do otherwise is selfish and rude.
The comment I responded to called me "extremely inconsiderate", "hostile" and "violent" while I'm neither of those things (well, "inconsiderate" when it comes to how I handle my dogs seems to be up for debate at least). Are those the stereotypes you mean are visible in my comment?
> Leash your dog. To do otherwise is selfish and rude.
Thank you for sharing your opinion but it does not help me understand WHY, which I why I made my initial comment in the first place. You have something to contribute, contribute. But re-iterating exactly the same piece of information as what I replied to without any sort of addition or effort does not help anyone in this discussion. If you want to explain why you feel that way, please do.
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
I frequently walk my dogs without leash. They follow my command, don't disturb other people or dogs unless both parties engage and generally I don't do anything that someone who has a leash wouldn't be doing. They also walk side-by-side with me when off-leash. This is very common in the city I live and surrounding area (Barcelona, Spain and Catalunya). Both me and others without leashes are indistinctive from people…
This comment basically drips with a fundamental inability to see this situation from the other person's perspective. Even to see the most basic thing , which is that other people have no oracular powers with which to discern whether you or your dog are well-behaved.
Well... I mean yeah, that's why I asked for more information in order to understand the other persons perspective, what do you think this discussion is about? In case you missed it, here is the part I explicitly call out that I don't understand their perspective but I would like to, so please educate me:
> How is inconsiderate if the dogs themselves are behaving? Maybe there is something I'm missing, and I'd like to understand your point of view. I could understand you think it's inconsiderate if people don't have control on their dogs and they annoy others while the owners do nothing, then I agree with you. But just because of being off-leash? Not sure I understand that line of reasoning.
If you have something to contribute that can further my understanding, I'd be most appreciative.
> other people have no oracular powers with which to discern whether you or your dog are well-behaved.
Yeah, this is true but applies in so many things in life. New friend introduced by my other friend? Not sure they are well-behaved or not, but I'll default to that they won't murder me, but if they give signs that they might want to kill me, I'd stay away or contact authorities. I think in general society is adjusting well to the possibility of judging things as they come along, instead of painting broad strokes like "people with dogs off-leash are extremely inconsiderate", at least where I live, not sure how things look where you live.
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#77“ That’s contributed not only to increased drone activity, but also to more dogs and bicycles on the trails – all of which are prohibited. “We’ve seen a significant increase in dogs, particularly off-leash,” Loebl said. “That’s devastating for wildlife and this is prime nesting season. The dogs chase the birds and the birds abandon their nests.” Another problem is the development of multimillion-dollar homes on the h…
As someone in their 20s I’ve already come to terms with just how much wildlife I’ll never be able to see because previous generations decided to absolutely destroy the planet.
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
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people with dogs off-leash are extremely inconsiderate. they're also the type to get hostile and even violent if you say anything
I frequently walk my dogs without leash. They follow my command, don't disturb other people or dogs unless both parties engage and generally I don't do anything that someone who has a leash wouldn't be doing. They also walk side-by-side with me when off-leash. This is very common in the city I live and surrounding area (Barcelona, Spain and Catalunya). Both me and others without leashes are indistinctive from people…
"How is it inconsiderate if I carry a gun in public? I've never shot or threatened anyone! If I met someone who asked me to put my gun away, I would obviously do so." :)
Societies work because we agree to give up a measure of our personal freedoms, even when it's sometimes a bit inconvenient for us.
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#79Interesting. I wonder why the drone caused such a disproportionate response. The article doesn't address it but I doubt that if, say, an eagle had landed or started killing birds they would have abandoned so many eggs.
I fly drones including with commercial filming permits at conservation parks/islands with large bird populations. Different types of birds react in various ways to a drone though I've never noticed similar birds to these act in an overly panicked way. Some types of birds will take flight and then resettle, some will circle closely and try to intimidate the drone (galahs), some charge or consider attacking it (osprey,…
Your theory that dogs are the main cause just doesn’t make sense to me, birds can’t be so dumb that they leave their eggs to rot because a dog is walking around below them, why even bother evolving flight and nesting in trees?
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#80“ That’s contributed not only to increased drone activity, but also to more dogs and bicycles on the trails – all of which are prohibited. “We’ve seen a significant increase in dogs, particularly off-leash,” Loebl said. “That’s devastating for wildlife and this is prime nesting season. The dogs chase the birds and the birds abandon their nests.” Another problem is the development of multimillion-dollar homes on the h…
Learned a new word today! One who scoffs at laws can be called, quite appropriately, a "scofflaw".