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This is really the problem with everything Walmart has done wrt eCommerce/online pickup IMO - It's like all the pieces are there, but they can't bring them all together. I've hit their website from Google looking for an item, and the lead time to ship is 2+ weeks and it's highlighted that it's sourced from a partner. Putting aside the obvious - it's just a worse deal. For most items, they're competing with 1-2 days,…

'Amazon nails in person pickup or Walmart nails online shopping.' Amazon has nailed free shipping with prime. In person pickup costs money in time, fuel, available vehicle. Feels like checkmate in 2021 but this may change

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> Working class shoppers. Sure, it’s elitist, but people like shopping alongside people in their own stratum. Not going to comment on the ethics/politics of it, but if people like shopping alongside people in their own stratum, then they have to accept that they have to pay a premium for it (i.e. shop at Whole Foods). You can't really say "I want to shop at the discount store but I also want only other wealthy people…

To be clear the actual wealthy people always shop at Walmart, because, ya know, they are wealthy because they don't waste money on more expensive groceries because the floors are nicer, and they probably don't mind being around other hard working people. Only half tongue in cheek, and completely agreeing with you.

The difference I see with more upper class stores especially ones like Whole Foods is they tend to be in dense layouts where it is literally more time efficient to get your shopping done, and the stores are frequently placed on higher value property which is closer to the wealthy patrons. They tend to have a good selection of healthful foods maybe with pricy grass fed animal products with a higher ratio of omega3s, nitrate free cured meats, food for special diets like gluten-free, and all variety of things which are in a certain sense practical. Also generally the food of equal nutritional value tends to taste better, which makes it easier to stomach your conscientious diet.

If your wealth is such that food cost is a fairly negligible part of your expenses, USUALLY the Walmart will be further away located on less expensive real estate, roaming around the Walmart supercenter can literally take more time (both of these points are, to be fair eliminated by curbside pickup/delivery), the variety might be good but it's of foods that might not necessarily be worth the cost savings, the meat & produce might be alright but it's rarely going to be exceptional. It's not that any cook worth their salt can't go to Walmart and cook some fantastic food, it's that the real fancy store can be the path of least resistance.

I patronize both stores, tending to make runs to Walmart type stores for mostly non-perishables sold at superior prices. Honestly I feel more uncomfortable among wealthy patrons can poor ones. I can feel a miasma of snootiness around me in an upscale enough shop.

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I think Wal*Mart has an image problem. I’ve gone into their stores. Their stock assortment isn’t bad compared to the competition. In fact, aside from Whole Foods on the organic/bio side of things, they measure up very well and better compared to their competition. They are more of a hypermart where you can do one stop shopping ala Carrefour. The issues I see are: very drab color palette. Working class shoppers. Sure,…

> I think Wal*Mart has an image problem. If you know their history then you understand how they got where they are. Walmart grew in the 80s and 90s by planting itself just outside the city limits of small towns across America. They attracted the towns people with low prices and jobs. Their presence eventually shutdown every competing small business in those towns and the former purveyors of those businesses often wou…

Those ghost towns today are still ghost towns. If the suburban massive parking lot megastore is the best the economy has to offer I'm not sure whether the economy should exist that way.

Also note - Amazon is doing the exact same thing to any remaining small retailers, squeezing suppliers like crazy and intensifying the brands selling exclusively from overseas (also destroying brand reputations as fakes are absolutely rife).

Also doesn't help that the middle class has dwindled and anyone caught below the "capital gains" economic apartheid line doesn't have money anymore so even if they wanted to buy local they couldn't.

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I don’t shop at Walmart for three reasons:

1. They always have boxes of un-stocked products stacked in the aisles, making it hard to navigate my shopping cart through the store.

2. Their food selection isn’t as good as other local retailers.

3. The Walmart near me locks the door near the handicap parking after 10:00 pm, even though they are open all night. I’ve been forced on multiple occasions to walk all the way to the other end of the store to get out and then walk all the way back to my car again, which is painful for me and why I have a handicap tag in the first place.

Two of those issues seem fairly easy to fix, yet they never do.

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The rules against gathering. in a group are not just weird. It’s a blatant anti-union mechanism.

As a customer visiting any store (not just Walmart), it is rather frustrating to need assistance from an employee but unable to find one until you find a gaggle of them all "hanging out". I have no idea what they are doing. They could be talking about unions, they could be talking about the weather, or they could all have just completed assiting the movement of a heavy item require 4 "teammates". Either way, it is no…

I don’t know why any of those three possibilities qualifies as a “bad look”. They’re working humans with needs, just like anyone else. It’d be like saying it’s a bad look whenever a few programmers are at a computer. What could they be doing?

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To be clear the actual wealthy people always shop at Walmart, because, ya know, they are wealthy because they don't waste money on more expensive groceries because the floors are nicer, and they probably don't mind being around other hard working people. Only half tongue in cheek, and completely agreeing with you.

The difference I see with more upper class stores especially ones like Whole Foods is they tend to be in dense layouts where it is literally more time efficient to get your shopping done, and the stores are frequently placed on higher value property which is closer to the wealthy patrons. They tend to have a good selection of healthful foods maybe with pricy grass fed animal products with a higher ratio of omega3s, n…

What I've noticed with "upscale" stores like Whole Foods is that their "experience" is just totally different from WalMart (others have pointed this out in other threads).

For people beyond a certain income level, a few dollars in savings aren't as attractive as shopping in a place where people seem to be more "happy". Many of these stores also tend to have an attached gourmet cafe where you can grab a "healthy" bite post/pre shopping. The whole foods in Downtown Austin even has yoga classes (an other fitness activities) on its terrace.

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This is really the problem with everything Walmart has done wrt eCommerce/online pickup IMO - It's like all the pieces are there, but they can't bring them all together. I've hit their website from Google looking for an item, and the lead time to ship is 2+ weeks and it's highlighted that it's sourced from a partner. Putting aside the obvious - it's just a worse deal. For most items, they're competing with 1-2 days,…

'Amazon nails in person pickup or Walmart nails online shopping.' Amazon has nailed free shipping with prime. In person pickup costs money in time, fuel, available vehicle. Feels like checkmate in 2021 but this may change

I dislike Walmart rather intensely but I know if I order a new Kitchen Aid mixer from them I’m going to get a new Kitchen Aid mixer. Ask me how I know the same isn’t true of Amazon. No matter how good your delivery logistics, it’s not “nailing it” if I get the wrong thing fast.

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> if people like shopping alongside people in their own stratum, then they have to accept that they have to pay a premium for it (i.e. shop at Whole Foods). I agree that Walmart can be extremely unpleasant compared to a regular grocery store for many reasons. However, I’ve found Whole Foods staff to be extremely unwelcoming unless you seem like you fit in regardless of how much money you make. Can definitely recommen…

HEB Central Market has excellent cheeses.

Central Market is probably what I miss the most about Texas (apart from the excellent BBQ).

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I pay more to avoid WalMart. I'm not even an elitist, I've just noticed in my area, the greeters are rude. After maybe 3 bad experiences in a row, I've decided to never go to WalMart ever again and it's been over a year since I've shopped there.

So to be clear you are not an elitist, but you don't shop at the lower cost store, because the greeter was having a bad day and was not nice enough to you and should have known what class you are and should have shown more reverence?.

Repetitively running into grumpy people in a particular place, and choosing to avoid that, is hardly elitism. You're choosing to interpret my statements in the least charitable way possible.

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'Amazon nails in person pickup or Walmart nails online shopping.' Amazon has nailed free shipping with prime. In person pickup costs money in time, fuel, available vehicle. Feels like checkmate in 2021 but this may change

> Amazon has nailed free shipping with prime. Not everywhere. I didn't renew my prime subscription a few years ago, because they rarely met their delivery times and I was starting to get broken, counterfeit, and obviously returned/resold items.

Never paid Amazon a dime for Prime, like ever. I’m sure I’m missing something but in general shy away from any and all subscriptions.

I consistently and daily choose no, fuck off and give me the free shipping I’ll wait. If I don’t have enough in my cart for free shipping I wait and add more to my cart later

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