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Re: There are no results for tank man

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In case it's not immediately obvious, today, June 4, is the anniversary of the event.

Yes,the event... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests HN looks like "A Quiet Place"

Christ. I wasn't avoiding mentioning it out of fear, I just thought that the three links in the parent would be sufficient for people to resolve the anaphor.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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This post is on the front page right now (edit: and now also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27396783 ) - that's the opposite of "disappearing". I'd have to see links to the other ones. Here's one tip for you guys, from years-long, world-weary experience: if you're coming up with sensational explanations in breathless excitement, it's almost certainly untrue. Edit: ok, here's what happened. Users flagged https:/…

Why is flagging anonymous?

For the same reason voting is, if not more so.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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So if someone wants to bury a story, now they know how to do it.

Serious question: does flagging it as dupe by software automatically remove it? Or does a mod need to click a button at this point?

He posted elsewhere that a mod has to approve it but they may glance at it without tons of focus

Re: There are no results for tank man

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If they were actually going to censor results wouldn't they censor the web results as well? What makes you think this isn't a technical issue.

You've got to be joking. Blanking out image results for a specific search string is a technical issue? This goes a little bit beyond assuming incompetence.

I don't know, if they were trying to stop the spread of information on the massacre it would be weird to blank out images but not fudge search results.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #72

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This post is on the front page right now (edit: and now also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27396783 ) - that's the opposite of "disappearing". I'd have to see links to the other ones. Here's one tip for you guys, from years-long, world-weary experience: if you're coming up with sensational explanations in breathless excitement, it's almost certainly untrue. Edit: ok, here's what happened. Users flagged https:/…

Modern censorship relies on using online communities' reporting, flagging and moderating systems to the censor's advantage.

No doubt that's true but if you're saying something specific about HN, I'd like to know what it is. Also, the word 'censorship' is too vague now. People just use it about whatever they disagree with. So if you have a specific question, it would also be good to use more precise language.

You guys need to realize that you have a trump card (can I say that? or too soon?) that users of other platforms don't have: direct access to the people running the platform, who are willing to answer any question about it.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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The flagging history of all the users who flagged that post was very consistent. There was no connection to any specific topic (nor between the accounts, that I could see). Rather, they have previously flagged stories about things like cryptocurrency, ransomware, covid lockdowns, $BigCo flamewars, and lots and lots of scandals involving such subjects as Florida, Katie Hill, and the Chicago Police Department. Also, mo…

Sounds like you're saying it was flagged because veteran users knew it would be a shit show which it is. lol

I think veteran is a fair term to apply to those users.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Paradoxically, as long as all information regarding the Tiananmen massacre in 1989 is being censored, there are people whose job it is to not forget to forget it. This means they'll have to remember to hide this sensitive information. So in a way, by taking so much effort to hide this information, China (and all countries and companies sucking up to it) are keeping this information alive. And (hopefully) eventually, these people will ask themself why it is necessary to hide it.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Hmmm, DuckDuckGo image search shows some people standing next to tanks but not the tank man photo. I guess it makes sense since DDG uses bing for their search tech but it's pretty disappointing that you can get uncensored searches or privacy but not both.

If you search for tank man on DDG, the very first result is the Wikipedia article about said individual and the Tiananmen Square massacre. If they were intentionally trying to censor the search results, why would they only censor images?

I don't think DDG is trying to censor results (nor that the parent post is suggesting that), I think they're inheriting censorship from their upstream sources, which aren't the same for different search types (web, images, news, etc.). Interestingly, it seems that even starting to type the "man" in "tank man" will result in no suggestions at all, even though the web results seem reasonable.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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dang 27 minutes ago [–] [flagged] on submissions nearly always means users flagged it. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#flag https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397158

Then un-flag it, dang. You explained to me (and HN) recently that posts which are critical of HN itself are moderated less, not more, than others. The same standard should apply to posts in which a greatly disadvantaged group are standing up to a vastly superior power, all else being equal (credibility, tactics, nature of grievance, etc.) As with content concerning the events of June 4, 1989, in Tiananmen Square, Chi…

I've unflagged it. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27399369.

Btw I'm not necessarily agreeing that those were bad flags; but in cases like this, the community has the final say.

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