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Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by xtracto »

aj3 wrote: post #27
srmarm wrote: post #10

Does surprise me to be honest, of course the CCP no doubt does exert power over companies that want to work in China and this can influence behaviour outside the country too. But surprised to see this so blatant and really quite clumsily too as easy to find in other contexts without difficulty.

This is definitely clumsy. Compare with searching for "坦克人" which gives all sort of tanks just not the one you're looking for (Google shows the same image for both English and Chinese search term).

Searching for "tank guy" without quotes gives you pictures of the tank man.

Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by grzm »

mazlix wrote: post #120
dang wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were to read the site guidelines, you would have a clear idea of how to get my attention. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

@dang I just read the guidelines and don’t see any mention of how to get your/a mods attention in posts unless you’re referring to “email hn@ycombinator.com”? Is that the proper way?

Yes. In particular, this note that calls that out explicitly is applicable:

> "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data."

Also note the Contact link in the footer.

(Also note that @dang doesn't do anything other than display the five glyphs @, d, a, n, and g.)

Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by iso1631 »

toomanyrichies wrote: post #123

FYI there is another similar (and unflagged) story currently on the front-page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635

I'm surprised this story wasn't unflagged to be honest

Plenty of people still on this page and downvoting. Irony is had they not flagged this ask-hn in the first place it would likely have gone quiet instead of Streislanding all over the place.

Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by partiallypro »

dang wrote: post #106
Qub3d wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

@Dang was this a user or a mod action?

[flagged] on submissions nearly always means users flagged it. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#flag . Edit: details of what happened are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397230

The flagging is clearly unfair...so why hasn't it been removed?

A lot of CCP fans out there it seems.

Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by [deleted] »

dang wrote: post #106
Qub3d wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

@Dang was this a user or a mod action?

[flagged] on submissions nearly always means users flagged it. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#flag . Edit: details of what happened are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397230

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Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by dredmorbius »

iso1631 wrote: post #97
Dig1t wrote: post #60

I have no idea how to get Dang's attention, but can we talk about why this thread is flagged? How is this not blatant censorship? Tons of people are NOT seeing this thread, it was on the front page before it got flagged, obviously the intention of whoever flagged it.

The thread could have been flagged because 50 people clicks "flag" in the first few minutes. Dang was working 12 hours ago, he's likely off at the moment.

There are other moderators, though dang remains the public face.

Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by dang »

toomanyrichies wrote: post #49

This shouldn't have been flagged. My understanding is that posts which comment on current events from a tech perspective are 100% within the bounds of acceptable behavior here.

Details of what happened are here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397230.

Since people are asking "if all that is true, why does it still say [flagged]", I've turned off flags on the above post now.

Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by dang »

Dig1t wrote: post #52
toomanyrichies wrote: post #49

This shouldn't have been flagged. My understanding is that posts which comment on current events from a tech perspective are 100% within the bounds of acceptable behavior here.

They totally are, threads discussing such things make it to the top of the front page _all_ the time. It's very suspect that this thread is flagged.

It's routine for threads discussing such things to make it to the front page and routine for them to get flagged. This is the cycle of life on HN. And rightly so: otherwise the front page would consist entirely of the sensational/hottest topics and flamewars.

Re: Ask HN: “Tank man” image search blocked on Bing and DuckDuckGo

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Post by dang »

lettergram wrote: post #113
Dig1t wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They totally are, threads discussing such things make it to the top of the front page _all_ the time. It's very suspect that this thread is flagged.

Everything "controversial" or anti-narrative since October 2020 I've posted has been flagged. Frankly, I think it's mostly bots or people being paid to do so. IMO HN should be changing it's flag policy.

This isn't remotely close to true. I think you may be falling prey to the notice-dislike bias, which unfortunately leads to false feelings of generality.

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