“Tank Man” • Hacker News Board

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by flying_sheep » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:46 PM UTC

bmitc wrote: post #35

This is probably related to Bing not showing results because, as far as I know, DuckDuckGo uses Bing as its underlying search engine. I’ve always chuckled at this from the Apple and Linux users railing against Microsoft but then they use DuckDuckGo. Interestingly, Bing shows plenty of relevant search results for their web results, including images, but doesn’t show results for an image search.

Link to Bing: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&qs=ds&form=QBI...

This is scary because censorship is reaching to all over the world.

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by flying_sheep » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

luke2m wrote: post #40

ww520 wrote: post #26

WTF. Is DDG helping China in censorship?

No, Bing is.

Link here: https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&qs=ds&form=QBI...

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by luke2m » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

bitcurious wrote: post #25

Camillo wrote: post #22

For comparison: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tank+man%22&tbm=isch

Speaking as someone who's used ddg for the last three years, this is a compelling reason to switch back to google.

https://startpage.com/ uses google’s results rather than Bing.

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by frogpelt » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:48 PM UTC

bmitc wrote: post #35

This is probably related to Bing not showing results because, as far as I know, DuckDuckGo uses Bing as its underlying search engine. I’ve always chuckled at this from the Apple and Linux users railing against Microsoft but then they use DuckDuckGo. Interestingly, Bing shows plenty of relevant search results for their web results, including images, but doesn’t show results for an image search.

But why does Bing filter this?

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by luke2m » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

Panino wrote: post #37

I've been using DDG as the default search for years and this is the first time I've been disappointed in them. DDG: don't let disappointment gain momentum because it's hard to stop.

DDG sources from bing, so if bing removes something, DDG won’t get it either.

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by kraig » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:50 PM UTC

hmd_imputer wrote: post #31

Fake privacy

I don't think thats whats going on here. This is more like highlighting that DDG is a rebranded/privacy focused Bing.

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by wcarss » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:50 PM UTC

lots of image results that include "tank man", many of the photo, turn up for "tank ma", "tankman", etc. Shows clearly that it is not a lack of indexed content, but a search filter.

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by adventured » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:51 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #27

Counting down the seconds till this gets flagged and removed like the rest

Yep. Only way this story stays on the HN homepage is if Dang specifically protects it from being flagged away.

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by dang » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:53 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #27

Counting down the seconds till this gets flagged and removed like the rest

This story is already on the front page elsewhere: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635.

Re: “Tank Man”

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Post by lamontcg » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 7:54 PM UTC

Panino wrote: post #37

I've been using DDG as the default search for years and this is the first time I've been disappointed in them. DDG: don't let disappointment gain momentum because it's hard to stop.

What is DDG going to be able to do about it?

Never having looked into it, I always wondered how DDG could financially support indexing the web and running a search engine. Now it makes sense.

Broad internet search is probably outside the ability of anything other than Fortune 100 companies today.