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No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

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Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

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post #5

Why does it feel like this report has been teased for weeks, almost akin to the release of a new blockbuster movie or similar cultural product?

UFOs make for sexy, apolitical news. Perfect for hitting a broad audience, and the more sensational you are the longer you can keep them tuning in.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#42
post #23

Well, assuming this isn't a psyop, this is incredibly exciting. These things are doing maneuvers that simply aren't possible with the technology we have currently. This means that the scifi future of our dreams is nearly upon us.

These things aren't "things". They are mostly camera artefacts. They're not doing anything.

I would include that in the psyop contingency. It seems pretty stupid to go through all this ado just for camera artifacts.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#43

Is this really a surprise to anybody? UFO means "unidentified flying object", not "alien".

Aliens are demons, they don’t need special machines to fly through the air and probe people’s butts in the middle of the night.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's camera artefacts, dude Does the U.S. report take a view on this? I'm not particularly swung by the extraterrestrial hypothesis. But I am curious if this is a classified project, domestic or foreign, or just a series of similar artefacts.

It doesn't need to. It's easy enough to view the videos and confirm that this is, in fact, what they are.

> It doesn't need to. It's easy enough to view the videos and confirm

So the U.S. government is going through the trouble of declassification to reveal the limits of its sensors to adversaries?

From what we can tell, the reports categorise them as UFOs. That implies a non-artefact theory.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Including their radar signatures?

What evidence do you have of anything having any radar signature?

Some of the confirmed cases from the pentagon include the fact that they were detected on radar.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#46

The NY Times Headline is much more informative and interesting: > U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects, but Can’t Rule It Out, Either Sub header: > A new report concedes that much about the observed phenomena remains difficult to explain, including their acceleration, as well as ability to change direction and submerge. Those descriptions are a tectonic shift on the topic from the US governmen…

> a tectonic shift on the topic from the US government

I haven't been following this closely. Why?

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#47

The NY Times Headline is much more informative and interesting: > U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects, but Can’t Rule It Out, Either Sub header: > A new report concedes that much about the observed phenomena remains difficult to explain, including their acceleration, as well as ability to change direction and submerge. Those descriptions are a tectonic shift on the topic from the US governmen…

"Those descriptions are a tectonic shift on the topic from the US government." Feels like we are being primed for something new to be afraid of and give our treasure to in defense of. Aliens being non-peaceful fails so many logic tests though. I hope the script doesn't go that way.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#48
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard a lot of credulous people describing these reports as proof of aliens. To me the idea that aliens exist is unsurprising, but aliens being here would imply FTL is possible, and that would be a huge discovery!

> aliens being here would imply FTL is possible Why? There are plenty of stars within a sub-light-speed radius since events that could've announced us to the galaxy: advent of radio, first nuclear tests, etc.

The sheer timescales and energy levels involved with all known methods of transportation is what makes it unlikely - at least for life on the timescales we live on.

The odds someone is interested enough to spend truly mind boggling amounts of energy (literally moving hundreds of mountains worth) and hundred of years to check us out after one of those events - and not even say hi - is low. That they are also so close - also low. If they have some sort of magic drive tech (implied by the behavior of these drive sightings), then that changes the math a lot.

Most people mean ‘magic drive tech’ when they say FTL.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

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The NY Times Headline is much more informative and interesting: > U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects, but Can’t Rule It Out, Either Sub header: > A new report concedes that much about the observed phenomena remains difficult to explain, including their acceleration, as well as ability to change direction and submerge. Those descriptions are a tectonic shift on the topic from the US governmen…

> but Can’t Rule It Out, Either

Can't prove a negative.

Re: No evidence UFOs are alien craft, unclassified US intelligence report to reveal

#50
The public has a right to know certain things, like if there is any evidence of aliens visiting Earth. The right should probably be an explicit constitutional amendment:

The people, being free citizens of the universe, shall never be denied access to any information that may pertain to the existence of alien life.

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