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Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by aidenn0 » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:38 PM UTC

troelsSteegin wrote: post #9

That returns results via DDG and Google. I am querying from the US. I am suprised to see no results through Bing directly.

I get zero image results for "tank man" on DDG

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by adamredwoods » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

If you do a Bing search for 'tank man tiananmen' the bubble of suggested searches in the upper row shows the actual image.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by clusterfish » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

ludamad wrote: post #7

I have to wonder here. The videos tab continues to show results, is this just leaking the fact that they have a unified image service globally?

Videos tab shows no results for me

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by rolobio » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:39 PM UTC

surround wrote: post #12

DuckDuckGo: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&iar=images&kp=-2 Yahoo: https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?q=tank+man Qwant: https://www.qwant.com/?t=images&q=tank+man

Wow! That's a surprise to me! Could it be because they are pulling other engines' results? Or is this purposeful?

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by verdverm » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:40 PM UTC

bmcooley wrote: post #11

Searching "tiennenman square massacre" pulls up the image as the second result.

searching "tiennenman square" also results in a suggested narrowing search which includes "tank man" at the end

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by t-writescode » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:44 PM UTC

castis wrote: post #19

t-writescode wrote: post #13

There are no image results for Tank Man. Regular search results in pictures and articles.

The point here is that it seems extremely unlikely image search results is the actual result of a sift through the available indexed data. Meaning that some manual mechanism is responsible for the page being blank.

I agree, and this probably isn't good; but, I want accuracy in what's being said when it comes to censorship. We shouldn't win against censorship by hyperbole but by the unfiltered reality being so horrible that people wouldn't want it, anyway.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by aphextron » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

surround wrote: post #12

DuckDuckGo: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&iar=images&kp=-2 Yahoo: https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?q=tank+man Qwant: https://www.qwant.com/?t=images&q=tank+man

Yahoo and DDG both use Bing results.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by detaro » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

rolobio wrote: post #24

surround wrote: post #12

DuckDuckGo: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tank+man&iar=images&kp=-2 Yahoo: https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?q=tank+man Qwant: https://www.qwant.com/?t=images&q=tank+man

Wow! That's a surprise to me! Could it be because they are pulling other engines' results? Or is this purposeful?

duckduckgo and yahoo both use bing as the backend.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by MikeDelta » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

Odd, if you search for tanks man, or tank men, or tank man picture, you get all sorts of nonsense (tanks man shows one actual image).

But zero results for such generic words means it has to be blocked actively.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Post by deanCommie » Fri, Jun 04, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

Elsewhere on HackerNews there are discussions about how GDPR regulations affect the internet entirely - not just in the EU.

And there are famous examples how California environmental regulations bring up the quality of products US-wide so everyone benefits from safety and consumer protections not just people in california.

In both cases, this is because it's easier to just have ONE version of a product if your market subset (EU, California) is big enough to justify it becoming the DEFAULT version of the product.

I...am truly terrified this is where we are heading with censorship and Chinese policies and the rest of the free and open web. At what point do companies that have to censor information for their chinese audience decide it's just less of a hassle to have the same censorship apply blanketly world-wide?