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Really? I don’t think this is at all similar to a car safety recall. That’s more like trying to issue a recall for a car because people can smash it’s windows and break in.
yeah of course it's an analogy. But by adding liability we'll get more recalls (patches) done. Vendors will stop playing FUD and will focus on the real cost of their security flaws. And yes some will still not do patches, just like some car vendors are considered less trustworthy. But at least the risk of suit will loom over their heads.
U.S. to give ransomware hacks similar priority as terrorism, official says
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Re: U.S. to give ransomware hacks similar priority as terrorism, official says
#392I'm surprised at how dismissive the comments are. We need many angles of defense against these criminals. Dismissing this because companies should do better security is like dismissing doctors because people should get more exercise. That's silly. We need preventative care and treatment. I'm not surprised by this announcement because the way that the pipeline-company ransomware hackers beat a hasty retreat was notice…
Agreed. I'm a bit tired of the victim blaming with security. It's physically impossible to build a house that can't be broken in to, and even harder for computer systems. Crime is a social problem, we can't rely on a dream world of mathematically perfect zero trust security.
Re: U.S. to give ransomware hacks similar priority as terrorism, official says
#393I'm surprised at how dismissive the comments are. We need many angles of defense against these criminals. Dismissing this because companies should do better security is like dismissing doctors because people should get more exercise. That's silly. We need preventative care and treatment. I'm not surprised by this announcement because the way that the pipeline-company ransomware hackers beat a hasty retreat was notice…
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#394I find it wild that the "run government like a business" crowd now wants government to run business. No one in this thread is really discussing what, if anything, the government can really do. Meanwhile, business is more than happy to be a toddler wielding a gun of computer security literacy, or to take the money of such companies and not truly helping.
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You have to enforce standards. Good security is expensive. If companies in competition don't have to pay for good security those that do have it will have higher costs and have trouble competing.
> "running power plants is expensive, if companies in competition don't have to run their own power plants then the ones that do will have higher costs and will have trouble competing" running power plants is expensive, if companies in competition don't have to run their own power plants then the ones that do will have higher costs and will have trouble competing
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#396As someone who has mainly done web apps and desktop development for near a decade, I am interested in maybe a career in cyber security. Any tips or ideas?
There are a number of cybersecurity folk here (tptacek, nickpsecurity, etc.)
And a few earlier threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
Re: U.S. to give ransomware hacks similar priority as terrorism, official says
#397“Colonial Pipeline decided to pay the hackers who invaded their systems nearly $5 million to regain access, the company said.” That is the problem right there. Someone just made 5MM tax free. Time to make paying ransomware illegal and that will stop the potential criminal market for ransomware attacks apart from political motivations.
they made a LOT more than 5m. I would have also been putting bets into the markets much earlier and cashing in on the stupid chaos. Continuing to let them do this with impunity is going to lead to escalated attacks.
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#398They fucked up by targeting infrastructure. If they stuck with small companies they could keep doing it till the cows came home. But now they have governments against them so now they will be hunted down.
These groups aren't really "targeting" anyone. These ransomware attacks are as sophisticated as nigerian prince emails. Send out a lot of spam, wait for someone who clicks on it and is running outdated software and boom. Sooner or later you will encrypt something important enough to pay for.
outdated Windows software
Re: U.S. to give ransomware hacks similar priority as terrorism, official says
#399I'm surprised at how dismissive the comments are. We need many angles of defense against these criminals. Dismissing this because companies should do better security is like dismissing doctors because people should get more exercise. That's silly. We need preventative care and treatment. I'm not surprised by this announcement because the way that the pipeline-company ransomware hackers beat a hasty retreat was notice…
Not exactly. Executives are choosing to hire el-cheapo offshore middlemen to manage security, software development and to save money (latter is more important - more money in their own pockets) - and we all are on a hook for this behavior. Criminals and hackers are like viruses - they are always there. But we need to maintain the health of the whole body (country and it's entities) to make sure we're resilient.
Execs and politicians selling our security and freedoms for profits and bribes need to be dealt with appropriately.
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#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's physically impossible to build a house that can't be broken in to, and even harder for computer systems. Which is exactly why you don’t store your savings in your sock drawer, you put it in the bank. Companies not taking appropriate backups is akin to keeping all of your money in a dish by the front door. Sure your house may never get broken into but nobody is going to have sympathy for you if it does.
Backups are no longer sufficient - as the hackers now threaten to disclose stolen data to the public.