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Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

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Easy to imagine it. It’s the google android play store situation.

And it just... sucks. So many avenues for exploitations for average developers that I'd never trust and install a 3rd party app on such a device that I carry around with me every day. Sure, Apple model is far far from perfect but the only solution I can think of for such a personal device.

How does that make it suck?

Like, just don't install those apps. Easy.

Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

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Man, that is a classic "Jobs" reply. Detailed, well-reasoned email, acknowledged by a curt one-sentence reply. But that only happened in email. I don't think Jobs liked the written medium. He could talk up a storm. One of the best declarative public speakers I've ever heard (but not an "emotionally eloquent" one, like many preachers).

Don’t think that’s as much a “Jobs” reply as just a general senior management necessity. With the amount of “important” emails you get in a position with any kind of responsibility, writing thoughtful elaborate responses to each and every one would leave you with no time to do your actual job. So you communicate the core message clearly and bluntly, and move on to the next fire.

I've grown to really like short responses, assuming they give enough info to answer the question. I think that a lot of us run into a subconcious thing where we feel like we need to say more, but most of the time we won't. I've been practicing recently, and it makes things so much faster and less tedious.

I think I originally picked this up from professors, because I'd write a well thought out response (an unreasonable amount of time spent on it), and the professor would respond with all the info I'd need in two sentences.

Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy to imagine it. It’s the google android play store situation.

I beg to differ. From my understanding, Google does not notarize apps from outside the Play Store and therefore cannot revoke apps outside the Play Store from launching. Apple can and does do all those things on macOS.

Play protect

Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

#45
post #41
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it just... sucks. So many avenues for exploitations for average developers that I'd never trust and install a 3rd party app on such a device that I carry around with me every day. Sure, Apple model is far far from perfect but the only solution I can think of for such a personal device.

How does that make it suck? Like, just don't install those apps. Easy.

This only works if you never interact with anyone ever. A lot of your security depends on people in your network not installing random crap and the past 25 years of computers have shown that it is sufficiently easy to social-engineer people into downloading and installing random crap.

Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

#46
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t think that’s as much a “Jobs” reply as just a general senior management necessity. With the amount of “important” emails you get in a position with any kind of responsibility, writing thoughtful elaborate responses to each and every one would leave you with no time to do your actual job. So you communicate the core message clearly and bluntly, and move on to the next fire.

I think a good example of this would be Tim Cook’s email to Phil Schiller on why the Mac’s App Store wasn’t taking off, which was revealed during the Epic Games v Apple trial: https://mobile.twitter.com/benedictevans/status/139681157744 ... Cook sees the fire, gives a brief thought, and leaves it to Schiller on Christmas Eve to figure out why it started and how to fix it.

I think that you meant to post the following URL -- https://twitter.com/benedictevans/status/1396811577442045953

Unfortunately, it was truncated in your post

Cheers and thanks for the reference!

Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy to imagine it. It’s the google android play store situation.

I beg to differ. From my understanding, Google does not notarize apps from outside the Play Store and therefore cannot revoke apps outside the Play Store from launching. Apple can and does do all those things on macOS.

Of course. Google doesn't exactly own your device — you do. You're free to disable all preinstalled Google apps, including Play Store. I prefer to not have my devices backdoored by manufacturer.

Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

#48
post #41
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it just... sucks. So many avenues for exploitations for average developers that I'd never trust and install a 3rd party app on such a device that I carry around with me every day. Sure, Apple model is far far from perfect but the only solution I can think of for such a personal device.

How does that make it suck? Like, just don't install those apps. Easy.

What do you mean by "those apps"? I'm talking about potentially ALL apps. I want to run apps on my device. That's why I bought it.

Re: Cocoa Touch apps (2007)

#49

Man, that is a classic "Jobs" reply. Detailed, well-reasoned email, acknowledged by a curt one-sentence reply. But that only happened in email. I don't think Jobs liked the written medium. He could talk up a storm. One of the best declarative public speakers I've ever heard (but not an "emotionally eloquent" one, like many preachers).

I'm a solo entrepreneur. Curt, one line emails are the only way to scale email when a lot of customers need my time.
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