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Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Wow, 14 years ago. I hope the current progressive correct-thinkers realize the takes they make today have to hold up over a decade from now, otherwise the next wave is going to cancel them.

He was not canceled by progressives. Equating anti-Zionism and anti-semitism is generally an anti-progressive stance in the US. This is progressive principles being morphed into a weapon to be used against progressives.

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post #55

What I have learned in recent years is how shockingly accepting of antisemitism people apparently are on both sides of aisle. Growing up in a prominently Jewish neighborhood in Minnesota I never really encountered it until maybe ten years ago. The fact that he was just shifted rather than fired in this political environment speaks volumes.

I'm trying to understand what he did that was so wrong? He (correctly imo) called out Israel for its violent tendencies. The only mistake he made that I can see is he conflated Israel with the Jewish people generally. But Israel has a massive propaganda campaign leading people to do exactly that (an attack on Israel the country is an attack on Jewish people in general).

If that blogpost was the same, but said Israel, instead of the Jewish people; would there be any issue with it today?

I really don't know much about the Jewish faith or how it interplays with Israel, so I'm just trying to understand where all the anger is coming from. I feel like Israel is acting in bad faith on public forums too, which makes everything more complicated for somebody unfamiliar with it all.

EDIT: Reading more comments I think I get the gist of the controversy, he insinuated all Jewish people should feel guilt for the actions of Israel? I agree that's wrong, but I understand how somebody could come by that belief. Israel themselves have fostered the narrative that Israel represents the Jewish people by constantly conflating an attack on Israel as an attack on the Jewish people.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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> As repugnant as his past anti-semitic rant was, people change and sometimes say and do stupid things. In a sane world this guy would not have been removed from his position and Damore would not have been fired. Instead we could have had a conversation to win hearts and minds, but today it is all about getting scalps, witch hunts and over-reaction. What we are currently doing sends people underground which radicalizes them more

EDIT: since this is heavily downvoted, I will remove the original text, as I feel I badly miscommunicated. It is obvious to me now that the words I selected really did not represent my intent. I did not intend to challenge the parent's assertion, but I completely understand why it would have been read as such.

Rest assured I understand why the quoted statement in the tabloids is perceived as antisemitic, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise! I was searching for some alternate explanation for why he wrote that specific phrase, because it was so beyond the pale and unlike the formulation he had used elsewhere in the post.

Please chalk this up to lessons learned on my part. Here's a link to the full version of the blog post where the excerpts may be read in context. [0]

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20210602000424/https://www.kamau...

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Israel, which defines itself as a Jewish state, is one of the most militaristic states in the world. So in fact we do know that the only present Jewish state has a “propensity for war”, not sure how this is seen as controversial. Of course, I think pretty much the same thing about the US government and about its citizens, the Americans, after all they’re the ones supporting said militaristic propensity.

> is one of the most militaristic states in the world Just for fun? Or does Israel face real security concerns?

"Security concerns" are not enough to judge the situation. Mobsters surround themselves of armed guards as much as the investigators trying to capture them. Nations that start wars need to protect themselves from counter-attacks and retaliation. Israel is in blatant violation of international law and handsomely profiting from it: 10% of its population lives on land that doesn't belong to the state and that by international agreements has to be returned to its legitimate owners.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Italy just celebrated the founding of its republic, which was in 1946...

So no state called "Italy" existed in more-or-less the same form before 1946?

True, the disparate Italian states were unified into the Kingdom of Italy in the 1860s, so it's older than Israel but younger than the US.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #366

His bigotry goes beyond anti-semitism. Kamau Bobb's blog posts were almost exclusively about White and Jewish people, as a whole, and their mistreatment of Black Americans both historically and today. He even targets progressive white people for their more unspoken racism. There is a very obvious tone of distaste for white and Jewish people in his posts. Search for the word "white" or "Jew" in his blog [1] posts to s…

Do note that the issue, in the media reporting of the incident, mentions and highlights one and not the other.

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Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Only the purest of the pure can lead a diversity effort. And it doesn’t count unless you were pure from the beginning. Growing to overcome past problems is not sufficient.

>Growing to overcome past problems is not sufficient. Their assumption is moreso that we cant grow to overcome past problems. So the only way to build themselves up is to tear others down. Thats why the popular "anti-racism" philosophy is so antithetical to and ignorant of the lives and philosophies of many of the greatest civil rights leaders such as Frederick Douglass, Booker T Washington, and MLK.

"Their"

Who are they? The people who believe racism exists?

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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post #373
post #344

What I find most absurd in all of this is the utter stupidity of beliefs in entirely man made fairytales that have been causing nonstop wars for the past few thousand years. Maybe eventually, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Mormonism, and any other gullible belief systems in fake sky people, written by total nutcases 1k+ years ago and miraculously still followed today, will end. Believing that you're somehow superior t…

The nazis were not especially religious in nature. And russian communists were specifically anti -religious.

It's a similar premise in the fact that each of these systems, whether it be religion, political ideology, or a cult personality all require mindless and low IQ followers to work.

Re: Google removes its head of diversity after 2007 blog post surfaces

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Here is a classic case of someone conflating the state of Israel and Jewish people and lumping it all together. Plenty of Jewish people that live both inside and outside of Israel are critical of the state. People can be critical of the state of Israel, but they should not be antisemitic. His comments are offensive for this reason.

People can be critical of the state of Israel, but they should not be antisemitic. Theoretically, I guess, but it's really strange how the one tiny country in the whole world that has a Jewish-dominated society is so often a target for complete destruction. Many of the same countries that have all but eliminated their own Jewish populations somehow find Israel's very existence to be unpalatable, going after them in t…

You are terribly correct. It reminds me of the left claiming Islam is a peaceful religion because only a ~third (whatever the numbers they allege) support violence and a much smaller fraction perpetrate it. Unfortunately, your claim is unquantifiable, so, as evidenced by your replies, the people who hate Israel vehemently deny any anti-semitism.
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