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Post by door101 »

myfavoritedog wrote: post #210
door101 wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Theoretically, I guess, but it's really strange how the one tiny country in the whole world that has a Jewish-dominated society is so often a target for complete destruction. Because it’s a colonial ethnostate, with massive support from the United States. Israel (the colonial ethnostate) should not exist. Palestine is not an ethnostate, it is the name for the multicultural, multi-ethnic state who rightfully control…

it’s a colonial ethnostate Palestine is not an ethnostate That's a strange view on the situation. Let's say I give you a choice. 1. Be a practicing Jew living in Palestinian-controlled territory. 2. Be a practicing Muslim living in Israel. I'd definitely choose 2, choosing 1 would be suicide. who rightfully controls the area occupied by Israel The Jewish people were the indigenous people of that territory. In what wa…

> The Jewish people were the indigenous people of that territory. In what way do they not rightfully control and occupy Israel?

This is a fictional narrative constructed to justify the state of Israel. It has no basis in historical fact -- there never existed a Jewish ethnostate in the territory known as Palestine, this is a modern construction. Regardless, I don't believe in ethnostates -- of any ethnicity, anywhere.

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Post by bern4444 »

Retric wrote: post #229
bern4444 wrote: post #167

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I believe you, but too many people use the line, I'm not antisemitic, I'm just criticizing the government as a scapegoat to excuse obvious antisemitic behavior.

‘too many’ is rather shifting the goalposts here. The vast majority of people are criticizing the government not the population. It’s unusual for people to consider a nation’s population rather than their government because a nation’s population is largely irrelevant. It’s not random Americans that have a history of overthrowing democratically elected governments, it’s the US government that does so etc. Israel’s gov…

Sure, but Americans aren't randomly attacked when abroad or out doing normal things, like getting food out or drinks.

And yet, Jews are today. It wasn't too long ago that people marched in Charlottesville chanting jews will not replace us. Now there's a massive rise in violence

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Post by themaninthedark »

literallyWTF wrote: post #57
MattGaiser wrote: post #48

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> Nothing he posted was offensive. > “If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself” How about that?

As I said, Israel conflates being a Jew with the state of Israel. And as such, people associate Israel with Judaism. That’s not offensive if it’s by design. You can’t have your cake and eat it to. Israel is an apartheid state.

What he posted is literately a rephrased version "The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you"

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Post by geodel »

nazca wrote: post #37

Slightly shocking that he didn't get fired. (yet?) They fired Damore for writing an email that was tone-deaf, insensitive, but largely supported by research. Bobb goes on a clearly antisemitic rant, and just gets reassigned. Is Google inconsistent, or has their policy on how to deal with these things changed over the past few years?

Well isn't it plainly obvious to be fired one has to be targeted by rabid left.

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Post by IncRnd »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #228
bushbaba wrote: post #187

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This is off topic. And getting away from root article. However Before Israel there was the British mandate. Before that Ottoman Empire. The Palestinians in Gaza never controlled the land.

> The Palestinians in Gaza never controlled the land. Doesn't that just mean “they were never powerful”? If they were living there, does it matter who was in power? English rule never stopped the Welsh being Welsh, or Wales from “belonging to” them. (I don't know how applicable this analogy is to this situation – probably not very, given there isn't a territorial dispute over who should have Wales.)

> Doesn't that just mean “they were never powerful”?

Not necessarily. It could also mean that the people living in Gaza today were not historically from Gaza but were from Egypt or elsewhere.

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Post by whimsicalism »

lgleason wrote: post #247

Live by the sword, die by the sword. That said, firing him, like they did with Damore would have been more consistent. Because everyone is under arbitration agreements that always benefit the company, vs the courts where you might have a shot at justice, they have no incentive to do that. As repugnant as his past anti-semitic rant was, people change and sometimes say and do stupid things. In a sane world this guy wou…

The people change defense obviously doesn't work for Damore, who was fired over his actions while employed at Google

Lots of weird comments in this thread.

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Post by plutonorm »

bern4444 wrote: post #167
kmonsen wrote: post #157

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That’s a huge straw man. I am critical of some of Israel’s behavior, but by no means calling for its complete destruction.

I believe you, but too many people use the line, I'm not antisemitic, I'm just criticizing the government as a scapegoat to excuse obvious antisemitic behavior.

I've not met many. But I have met plenty of people who deliberately conflate criticism of Israel with criticism of Jews in order to easily dismiss criticism of the former. I'm part Jewish.

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Post by myfavoritedog »

kmonsen wrote: post #157
myfavoritedog wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People can be critical of the state of Israel, but they should not be antisemitic. Theoretically, I guess, but it's really strange how the one tiny country in the whole world that has a Jewish-dominated society is so often a target for complete destruction. Many of the same countries that have all but eliminated their own Jewish populations somehow find Israel's very existence to be unpalatable, going after them in t…

That’s a huge straw man. I am critical of some of Israel’s behavior, but by no means calling for its complete destruction.

Your comment is a straw man because I never claimed that you couldn't be critical of Israel but not be antisemitic. In fact, I said it's theoretically possible. I just find that in practice, people who show their hand at being antisemitic seem to try to hide behind the whole anti-zionist/antisemitic distinction.

Based solely on the merits, you'd think that Israel's ethno-state bona fides wouldn't be any worse than dozens of other countries'. In fact, they're far less problematic. You can be Arabic/Muslim in Israel and rise to the highest levels of government with full rights of citizenship. I can point to many other countries where that wouldn't be the case for ethnically/religiously mal-aligned individuals. But somehow those other countries aren't constantly in the news cycle for defending their ongoing right to exist.

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Post by bushbaba »

paganel wrote: post #241

Israel, which defines itself as a Jewish state, is one of the most militaristic states in the world. So in fact we do know that the only present Jewish state has a “propensity for war”, not sure how this is seen as controversial. Of course, I think pretty much the same thing about the US government and about its citizens, the Americans, after all they’re the ones supporting said militaristic propensity.

It’s surrounded by countries who tried to kill all Israelis be them Jewish or Arab multiple times.

It’s next door to hamas which stones to death gays.

Yeah it has a strong military to ensure it the security of its citizens.

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