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Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

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Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

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We ask our kids to do it when they go to school. It doesn't seem fair if we're unwilling to do the same.

School, and the socialization that occurs there, is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Work is generally just work, it's not like your personal development suffers if you skip it.

In a household with two teenagers one couldn’t go back to school while the other one flat out refused to.

So, 50% of the kids don’t want the socialization.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#32
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Fine, but if any company makes me wear a mask for 8 hours, I am out of there. Work remotely or come to a normal office sure.

Masks should be optional UNLESS you're NOT vaccinated.

I wish all the covid vaccine protocols were applied to other diseases we have vaccines for. Measles is a million times more infectious.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#33

Why? Because of the already sunk cost into office space? Any other reasons? I know I can drive 40 min and stare at the same laptop and email/zoom with the same people. What’s in it for me? All I see is unnecessary agony, and a lot of it. I produce more from home. Why does an employer want me to suffer more, even if it will cost them? What’s in it for them?

So executives can lord over their kingdom. Why else?

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#34

Interesting, similar to Google[1]... I wonder if 3 days in-person will be the new paradigm for big tech companies. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/6/22422518/google-hybrid-wor...

When office shutdowns started happening, everyone waited for the big tech companies to make the call and copied them, just like how everyone followed Google's leetcode and hire model for all SWEs in SV.

I believe Google made the 3 days in office call starting Sept first and places started following suit.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#35
post #10

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Masks should be optional UNLESS you're NOT vaccinated.

I wish all the covid vaccine protocols were applied to other diseases we have vaccines for. Measles is a million times more infectious.

Everyone where I live gets the MMR vaccine in grade school.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#36
post #18

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I would never ask my kids that and I would try to find a school that does not enforce a mask policy. Especially with children, learning non verbal communication is very important.

I would argue that your children will learn non-verbal communication even better with masks on. It encourages alternative methods of conversing and challenges you to be a better listener and more attentive student. Honestly I don't know why we didn't do this in elementary school just for the hell of it!

Call me a backwards traditionalist but I prefer to keep social skill development that has worked for millennia.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#37

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School, and the socialization that occurs there, is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Work is generally just work, it's not like your personal development suffers if you skip it.

In a household with two teenagers one couldn’t go back to school while the other one flat out refused to. So, 50% of the kids don’t want the socialization.

My kid also sometimes doesn't want to brush his teeth or eat his broccoli.

Part of childhood is doing things that adults insist is good for you even if you don't want to.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#38
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When I was around the Bay, I felt like part of the implicit social contract was trading a luxurious office environment for meager, overpriced housing. A long-term WFH arrangement was never sustainable. In my spacious but reasonable Midwestern house it's been amazing working from home (I'll keep drawing that Bay Area salary as long as possible!)

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Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

School, and the socialization that occurs there, is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Work is generally just work, it's not like your personal development suffers if you skip it.

In a household with two teenagers one couldn’t go back to school while the other one flat out refused to. So, 50% of the kids don’t want the socialization.

They also don’t want to clean their room.

Re: Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

School, and the socialization that occurs there, is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Work is generally just work, it's not like your personal development suffers if you skip it.

In a household with two teenagers one couldn’t go back to school while the other one flat out refused to. So, 50% of the kids don’t want the socialization.

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