Another click bait article. Beware. Facial recognition was banned by SF before in the US.
But it’s a technology evolving. And susceptible to manipulation as well. Watch the avantgarde comedy by the creators of South Park:
King County, WA bans facial recognition software
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#22Suppose looters ransack a store when it is closed and are caught on video. Why wouldn't you want facial recognition software to identify them? Do you have a right to privacy when you break into a building? You can support some uses of facial recognition without wanting it to be used to say ticket people for jaywalking.
Why would I?
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#23This might be a good thing for proponents of surveillance. They can wait until some really bad things happen and people beg for facial recognition.
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#24It's not the first county int he country; as noted int he article San Francisco (which is both a city and a county) instituted such a ban in 2019. California has a statewide ban in place already. It's good news but needlessly and inaccurately sensationalized.
Eh, I feel like that's being too picky. First, California's "ban" is only a three-year moratorium on FRT in police body cameras, whereas King County's is on "the use of [FRT] software by county government agencies and administrative offices."
Second, and where things get a bit more "technical" is that SF is both a city and a county, yes, but it's only one city in that county. There are 881,549 people in SF county compared to 2,252,782 people in King County[0]. According to each county's Wikipedia page, SF county is 231.91 square miles to King County's 2,307. King County has 39 cities and towns[1] to SF county's 1.
So while yes, you're technically correct, I still think that the headline is accurate as-is. Most of the country's counties are similar to King County (eg, not a city-county), and it's important to distinguish the fact that this ban covers a tremendously wide area and numerous municipalities.
[0] https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/kingcountywashi...
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#25At last, KC did something right. Hooray! There's nowhere near enough unsolved violent crime to justify the surveillance state. And yes, I have been the victim of an unsolved violent robbery.
P.S. who cares if KC is first or not. What matters is it got done.
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#26How's gait identification doing these days?
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#27Another click bait article. Beware. Facial recognition was banned by SF before in the US. But it’s a technology evolving. And susceptible to manipulation as well. Watch the avantgarde comedy by the creators of South Park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM
I mentioned it in another response in this thread, but while it's technically correct that SF is both a city and a county, making it the first actual county to ban the tech, it's important identify the fact that this ban covers a much wider area, a population of ~2.2 million compared to ~880,000, and 39 towns/cities compared to 1.
With that in mind I don't have much of an issue with the use of the word "county", considering there aren't a whole ton of city-counties relative to the total number of counties in the US.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why wouldn't you want facial recognition software to identify them? Why would I want it?
Facial recognition isn't very accurate. Based on some of the research I've seen, it's borderline worthless under many circumstances. I wouldn't want to use it in such a situation because of the likelihood that the person who committed a crime is going to go free while an innocent person might take the fall for it.
I would like it even less if it was 100% accurate.
Do you really want every move you make logged? It's an incredibly powerful tool to use for oppression. If someone in the government doesn't like you, all they have to do is watch you for a few days. You'll be sure to commit a crime sooner or later, such as jaywalking, or maybe you looked at someone in a suspicious manner, and then they prosecute you to the max.
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#29At last, KC did something right. Hooray! There's nowhere near enough unsolved violent crime to justify the surveillance state. And yes, I have been the victim of an unsolved violent robbery. P.S. who cares if KC is first or not. What matters is it got done.
It's great to see the US leading the way on this, i hope that Europe takes notice.
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#30Why does this apply only to policing? Is it a matter of authority/jurisdiction?