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Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Post by bmelton »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #130
bmelton wrote: post #102

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And that is exactly why, at least on Android phones, the out of box Plus configuration is to automatically upload all pictures that are taken on a phone.

You've got to have misstated that. That would be a complete and total disaster of enough scale to completely kill Plus.

Nope.

They're uploaded as 'private' by default, and it's a configurable option, so you can turn the auto-upload feature off altogether. Actually, maybe I did, because I think it asked me the first time whether or not I want auto-upload on or off by default; but even with it on, I don't feel even remotely unsafe -- the photos are automatically backed up to 'the cloud' and aren't shared unless I go in and explicitly share them.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Post by waterlesscloud »

bmelton wrote: post #131
waterlesscloud wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've got to have misstated that. That would be a complete and total disaster of enough scale to completely kill Plus.

Nope. They're uploaded as 'private' by default, and it's a configurable option, so you can turn the auto-upload feature off altogether. Actually, maybe I did, because I think it asked me the first time whether or not I want auto-upload on or off by default; but even with it on, I don't feel even remotely unsafe -- the photos are automatically backed up to 'the cloud' and aren't shared unless I go in and explicitly sh…

Wow. That's deadly for Google.

No matter what you personally may feel about it, I can guarantee we'll be seeing blog posts and news stories about "Google put my private pictures I took for my boyfriend on the internet."

Guaranteed.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Post by bmelton »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #132
bmelton wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. They're uploaded as 'private' by default, and it's a configurable option, so you can turn the auto-upload feature off altogether. Actually, maybe I did, because I think it asked me the first time whether or not I want auto-upload on or off by default; but even with it on, I don't feel even remotely unsafe -- the photos are automatically backed up to 'the cloud' and aren't shared unless I go in and explicitly sh…

Wow. That's deadly for Google. No matter what you personally may feel about it, I can guarantee we'll be seeing blog posts and news stories about "Google put my private pictures I took for my boyfriend on the internet." Guaranteed.

I don't disagree, necessarily, but it would be a pretty baseless claim made by someone who doesn't understand how the internet (or the app) works.

Admittedly, that's quite probably most people, but, as I said, it does ask you by default, and it does upload those pictures as private until you explicitly go and share them otherwise.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#134

Post by jgamman »

Q. what would a social network look like if you designed it primarily for business use and personal/social use was a subset? I think G+ could dominate the corporate collaboration scene in a way that Facebook can't. Seriously, FB is banned in lots of corporates but banning Google? Seriously, I literally can't function without search. I guess you could say 'corporate Z only uses Bing' and yeah you're right but seriously, Google is an extension of my own personal productivity - and that's how i put food on the table. Now imagine Huddle, Circles, blog/tweet, docs etc - work flow project management out of the box. and, oh yeah, you can organise this weeks BBQ with your buddies without it being a hassle... i don't know squat but if you wanted to own a seperate space to the FB lolcat picture brigade - target the grown-ups...

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Post by phamilton »

spullara wrote: post #90
ralfd wrote: post #85

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This may be a stupid question: How do you use lists? I made some lists with circlehack.com. But on Facebook I don't see a way to share something with a list. I am puzzled...?

You press the Lock button under your post then select who you want to share with even who you don't want to share with. Customize gives you access to the all the features.

With G+, I make a conscious decision about privacy every time I post something. Every post I decide where it goes. G+ keeps it front and center. Facebook has it 4 clicks hidden away and then doesn't make it obvious you can include lists when it says "These People: Specific People".

I have never used lists on Facebook when posting (I have used them for messaging though... which I found annoying due to the limit to the number of people in a list).

Circles, on the other had, I use with every post I make.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Post by phamilton »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #98
ams6110 wrote: post #87

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Zuckerberg is also a kid, he's like a rookie who hit a home run on his first at-bat. It would not be surprising to me if he was blindsided out of a combination of youthful arrogance and inexperience.

Because there's only Mr Zuckerberg running the whole company? He's been at it a while. If he gets beaten I don't think it will be to do with youth and inexperience. Remember Google failed with their first offering in this space (Wave), was it youth and inexperience then?

Wave wasn't really designed to be a social experience. During the keynote, they talked about what Email would be like if it were designed using today's technology, rather than evolving from snail mail. What they came up with was a lot of very impressive technology. They gave this technology to the developers in beta to see what they could do with it. While Wave was scrapped, bits and pieces of it live on everywhere from Docs and Calendar to Google +.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Post by phamilton »

camtarn wrote: post #21

"Each of us on average has hundreds of friends on Facebook. When you share things on Facebook, you have to share it with all of them! How stupid is that?" It would be stupid ... if it were actually true. Facebook's privacy controls are actually pretty sophisticated now: by default I have anything I post shown to friends of friends, but excluding certain people. For potentially controversial status updates I restrict…

4 clicks vs 1 click. That's the difference between sharing with a list and sharing with a circle. You know what takes less clicks? Changing my monitor's resolution. Assigning my iMac a static IP instead of using DHCP. Changing my sound output to go over HDMI instead of using local speakers. Those are semi complicated things that your average user doesn't do. It shouldn't be that hard.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#140

Post by phamilton »

watmough wrote: post #12

Why is Twitter wounded? Twitter is essentially friction free in use, and has a lot of momentum as a single-purpose destination. On the other hand, Facebook has felt increasingly intrusive, facial recognition etc., and I already gave up on it, even before I knew G+ was coming out.

Twitter was a great way to create/mine public content. The problem is that most of us prefer to express ourselves in more than 140 characte
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