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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by pavanky »

esrh wrote: post #378

> Based on our research, we found out that more than half of you have 4+ tabs open all the time, and some of you have more, a lot more. This is surprising. I rarely have over three tabs ever, and i usually like to keep it at one. If i really need to multitask that many things I'd prefer to open another window and either splitscreen or move it to a different workspace. I don't like the redesign. I think I'll be moving…

I am in the same boat with you on the number of tabs, but I love the new redesign. I am not sure how this is enough of an issue for anybody to jump browsers.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by thevagrant »

esrh wrote: post #378

> Based on our research, we found out that more than half of you have 4+ tabs open all the time, and some of you have more, a lot more. This is surprising. I rarely have over three tabs ever, and i usually like to keep it at one. If i really need to multitask that many things I'd prefer to open another window and either splitscreen or move it to a different workspace. I don't like the redesign. I think I'll be moving…

Is the design really that different? I'd rather use Firefox and support the last independent browser.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by zmmmmm »

nfoz wrote: post #374

> The popular Total Cookie Protection moves from the optional strict setting to always-on in private browsing. This feature maintains a separate “cookie jar” for each website you visit while browsing privately. Any time a site deposits a cookie, Firefox locks it up in its own cookie jar so that it can’t be shared with any other website. Why isn't that on all the time, even in normal browsing mode? Like, what breaks b…

> I thought cookies were locked per-domain since the invention of cookies

That is sort of what this mode breaks. Even if your web page on foo.com loads an image from bar.com, bar.com still cant set a cookie that it will get back next time you go to bar.com. So cookie's aren't "per-domain" any more, they are something much more complicated.

And yes, it breaks stuff .... so if for example, if you watch an embedded Youtube video on page A, youtube probably doesn't know its you and if you signed into Youtube previously as a suscriber to avoid ads guess what, you're now going to look anonymous and you'll get treated to ads even if you pay to not have them on Youtube normally.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by somishere »

I've been appreciating the new UI for a wee while now on the dev edition. Very easy on the eye. Especially appreciate the improved access to tab syncing between devices (which I use frequently!)

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by shawnz »

spartanatreyu wrote: post #390
Ayesh wrote: post #382

I love Firefox ethos, Firefox keeps redesigning itself over and over, and this time, for the worse. I have a 400 LOC userChrome.css file because the new redesign was barely usable since Firefox beta received this makeover. - There is no tab contrast, and very difficult to tell tabs apart. Made worse on sides without Favicons. - I loved the mic/speaker icon when a tab is playing/listening audio. They had to make it TW…

> They had to make it TWO lines in the tab It's always been on one line for me, and I use the default styling.

Previously tabs always took one line of text, but now they sometimes take two (e.g. to show the currently playing indicator, which is now text and not just an icon)

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by lbotos »

Ayesh wrote: post #382

I love Firefox ethos, Firefox keeps redesigning itself over and over, and this time, for the worse. I have a 400 LOC userChrome.css file because the new redesign was barely usable since Firefox beta received this makeover. - There is no tab contrast, and very difficult to tell tabs apart. Made worse on sides without Favicons. - I loved the mic/speaker icon when a tab is playing/listening audio. They had to make it TW…

The speaker one threw me for a loop today and I hate it. So much harder to scan for...

Beyond that, I do not understand why the active tab cannot be "connected" to the browser chrome. I don't hate the strong shadow nor the subdued non-active tabs but the disconnect feels like an unnecessary abstraction.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by userbinator »

Does anyone really need a "reminder" that the tabs can be dragged around...?

I don't think these UI changes are going to attract much of the Chrome userbase, but meanwhile they do have the effect of alienating a lot of the existing userbase. They look more like acts of desperation, while the marketshare continues to slowly decrease. It's sad to see.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by todd3834 »

I remember the day when Firefox was one of the first things so many people installed on a new Windows machine. I struggle to figure out how Firefox is going to gain marketshare today. I think the privacy features sound great but most people probably believe that the existing browsers consider their privacy as well. Google has such an advantage that they can promote Chrome to users who use their search every day multiple times a day.

I think the mobile OS Firefox attempted would have been great for them if it had succeeded.

What would make me download and use firefox today? I download and install Chrome on my mac because I feel more productive with the developer tools when I'm doing web development. When I wasn't doing any frontend work I actually stuck with Safari.

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