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It doesn't make sense for a trillion-dollar company known for some of the best software engineering. There are remarkable lapses in UX with Google products.

Someday I hope to read an article or watch a talk explaining Googles approach to UX. The best UX in a Google apps seems to be Gmail, and that’s honestly not that good either. Google is able to build insanely complicated infrastructure, design cool languages, they produced fantastic backend software and the they completely forget that people need to interact with it.

Gmail at some point had a good UX. Nowadays I've switched back to a local mail client because their webmail is weirdly sluggish for no reason.

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tiktokization of pop music /s

It's actually the spotifization of pop music- spotify pays per song not per minute, so artists are incentivized to make shorter songs.

I'd argue it's actually just part of a very long trend.

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AFAIK the age restriction credit card thing (inside the EU) is the result of some stupid law change (the Audiovisual Media Services Directive). Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now.

I'm so tired of tech people saying "it has to suck because the law requires it", when they clearly haven't read it. You hear it all the time when discussing tracking banners or ID verification. NO, the law does NOT require your implementation to suck, and most laws give you plenty of leeway in how you implement it. This is really not personal, but I HATE the argument. Take this as an example. The AVMSD isn't new, it…

> NO, the law does NOT require your implementation to suck,

When the law is "you have to verify a meatspace user's age before showing them content that could arbitrarily be considered 'adult' by some group of lawmakers who most likely have different and more puritan values than you," yes, it does require your implementation to suck, because that law sucks by definition.

I'm glad YouTube implemented it this way, so that the pain of shitty laws can be felt instead of being allowed to proceed. Maybe people will actually try to push back against overzealous Internet regulation at some point.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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post #57

It's pretty infurating that I've had a Youtube account since 2006 (15 years ago), and now they're asking me whether i'm over 18. A basic calculation on their end could filter the accounts based on age, given the TOS of when they were created (e.g. if the TOS specified that I must be over 13, a 2006 account would mean I'm at least 28, therefore automatically verified).

> A basic calculation on their end could filter the accounts based on age, given the TOS of when they were created

I assumed it was a legal requirement, and basic intuition and common sense aren't relevant. Much like the immigration form that says "Are you a terrorist".

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You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

On the more humorous side they could have implemented an age check similar to the one from Leisure Suit Larry. Although the questions were a lot harder back in 1991 when the Internet was not at your disposal. http://www.classicgaming.cc/pc/leisure-suit-larry/age-quiz

Tbh I think this sort of thinng would be harder today, if you took away the internet "for a night", because pop culture is now much more fragmented than it was back then.

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What videos are free to watch on there?

I don't know, I have a free year of it. It plays in the app without asking, but not on the website.

No, I already had an account but it doesn't have a credit card on file.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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If there's anyone running a YouTube channel getting hit by the age restrictions, consider running a PeerTube: https://joinpeertube.org/

Last time I took a look at peertube it was tiny numbers of views and a lot of porn, which is fine but not my platform of choice.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

Interesting, when does Apple ask for a cc for age verification? I don't think I've come across that UI. Edit: Looks like it might be an EU thing?

Must be.

On major mobile networks in the UK, SIM cards/data plans by default have an adult content internet filter enabled. Blocks stuff like pornography (obviously) and even some other various adult age-focused content like gaming websites. (I've seen the EA Battlefield/Call Of Duty websites blocked before)

Usually if you try to access, say, pornhub.com, it'll redirect (ala. WiFi captive portal style) to an internal network page and you have to enter a credit card to disable it on your account. A debit/bank card won't work. I'm over 18 now but at the time I came across this (also over 18) I didn't have a credit card but I ended up bypassing this with a Curve (Fintech 1->many card thing) card which seems to identify as a credit card on the network's system.

Alternatively, if you don't mind never seeing the assistant again (jk.), you can go into one of the network's shops and ask the assistant to turn it off by providing some ID like a passport/driving licence.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

I just get a sign in to confirm age. Are you absolutely certain you weren't on a third party site?
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