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Re: Google Removes More Than 11 Million .co.cc Domains From Search Results

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Post by a3camero » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 6:54 PM UTC

rwmj wrote: post #49

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #40

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It does involve domains as well. That's why demandmedia and the like used to have higher rankings. Any old ehow article isn't linked to by many, but taken as an aggregate they are. I've always felt that they should be ranking individual pages and completely disregard the domain. We'd see a lot more expert content that way.

What you're describing is not PageRank, but the extra information that Google's current and secret algorithm uses. The PageRank algorithm doesn't involve domains, and no amount of downvoting is going to change that -- check your facts.

I'm not sure that there is a HN downvote but I upvoted you anyway.

Re: Google Removes More Than 11 Million .co.cc Domains From Search Results

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Post by csytan » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 7:49 PM UTC

willwagner wrote: post #48

yaakov34 wrote: post #27

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Hey, I come here to offer useless kvetching and complaints, not solutions :). Seriously, if I knew how to solve it, I'd be the CTO of Google. But I'll make a couple of guesses. I think they need to go for a lot more human input. It goes against the grain of everything they do, they want to solve everything algorithmically. But SEO is just too good at abusing algorithms. I think they need to get more humans involved,…

We tried doing something similar at XMarks (a bookmark sync service) when I worked there. We figured bookmarks were a good source for mining quality websites and hired some very bright people with a search background to build it. For some searches, it gives pretty good results. Here's the one it gives for VPN providers: http://www.xmarks.com/topic/vpn_providers It was an uphill battle for us, which ultimately never w…

I think one reason why the search product didn't gain traction was because it interfered horribly with the original goal of Foxmarks -- a service to sync bookmarks.

Speaking as a former user of Fox/XMarks, I saw the product go from a simple bookmark sync, to a bloated extension that tried to do more than what I had downloaded it for.

I do think that the data could have been useful, but it would have been a better idea to create a completely different product than to bundle additional features onto an existing one.

Re: Google Removes More Than 11 Million .co.cc Domains From Search Results

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Post by city41 » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 9:01 PM UTC

AlecSchueler wrote: post #67

jawns wrote: post #3

Dang ... there goes traffic to the First State Tourism Board's http://www.visit-delaware.co.cc

Wouldn't it make sense for them to be using .us anyway?

The page says Delaware's new slogan is "Delaware: boring on purpose" which seems to suggest it is a parody site.

Re: Google Removes More Than 11 Million .co.cc Domains From Search Results

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 9:30 PM UTC

jeggers5 wrote: post #2

I love how Google have the balls to do things like this, this can only be considered a good thing.

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Re: Google Removes More Than 11 Million .co.cc Domains From Search Results

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Post by mikeklaas » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 9:35 PM UTC

At Zite we have a domain-level spam filter and

   .co.cc

is the the 6th strongest feature for spam indication. The first five are:

   cheap
   forex
   pills
   viagra
   urnitur

Re: Google Removes More Than 11 Million .co.cc Domains From Search Results

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Post by speckledjim » Thu, Jul 07, 2011, 8:10 AM UTC

brudgers wrote: post #21

speckledjim wrote: post #14

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Never had any issue. Give some examples of what doesn't seem to work for you.

Your results are likely to be different because of Google's practice of "personalizing" results based upon the consumer's profile. Any discussion of the quality of Google's results should be preceded with "For me."

That's a cop out. Provide examples, on a clean browser/incognito/no cookies/etc

Re: Google Removes More Than 11 Million .co.cc Domains From Search Results

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Post by chaud » Tue, Jul 12, 2011, 6:12 PM UTC

matwood wrote: post #32

chaud wrote: post #18

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Take a look at game search terms, like Warcraft. There are plenty of sites that sell in game currencies or items, along with sites that republish news from other sites mixed in the results.

Have you thought that's because many people do buy currency and items?

These sites are masquerading as news sites with poor English rehashing of old news, or just pasting news directly from other sites. They aren't quality results that belong in Google News.