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The Anxiety of Influencers

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Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by korse »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #110
sircastor wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the standard definition of influencer? Is there some standard being set? And by what body?

There isn't a "real" standard as per an international organization, but there is already an emergent consensus in marketing around tiers of influencers based on number of followers. For one instance: https://www.tribegroup.co/blog/influencer-followers "Nano" influencers, according to this particular company, are people with 1000-3000 followers, Micro are 1,000-100,000, Macro are 100,000+, etc. Here's another example…

Why is this post grey?

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by codeOnMaster »

What I try to keep in mind is that for these things to work, you have a few influencers at the top, making money and creating "content" and you have a sea of people who consume the "content".

I deleted all (most) of my social media because I know very well that I'm part of the consumers if I'm on there at all. And if I'm consuming, then I'm not producing. So I try to focus on producing during my day - work (career), personal projects, working out, working on projects around the house, building/investing in my friendships and relationship.

Sure, I also consume sometimes. But I try to minimize it.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by Applejinx »

seibelj wrote: post #107
Applejinx wrote: post #65

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One of the reasons I'm a HN type is that I'm the type of entrepreneur who will beat himself into the ground to get to my results, no matter what it takes. Part of the reason for this is that when I was much younger, my family DID turn their back on me, and I became homeless, and I was treated as a black sheep loser all my life and was compelled to reach for other things. I did not have friends for the most part, and…

I’m sorry you experienced this. My home life wasn’t perfect but it was much better than yours. I love my wife and children most of all - they are what I mean by a created family as the family we created was the result of my wife and I choosing to do so. Immense contentment and fulfillment come from my immediate family. I have found it much better to come to amends with past family I have had issue with than it is to…

Yeah, I'm finding it impossible to pull that one off, even after inheriting money: I simply do not have the socialization to get into or maintain a romantic relationship. That's improving but it may never get there and there's nothing I can do about it but be patient and try to improve as a person, in the absence of feedback or reward. Nobody is going to get down into the hole with me and dig me out, I've got to dig myself out and may never get there.

However, this is the same problem I faced as an entrepreneur, so naturally I am doing my best with it. One thing I am, is stubborn :D

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by clarge1120 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #120
theshadowknows wrote: post #105

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Because it lets adult men watch young scantily clad boys and girls jump around for free. That’s the sick part to me. These kids (and they are kids) are basically soft core porn for pedophiles. And Nike and Amazon subsidize it.

That's how it started yes, preteens and teens doing dances and lip-syncing to songs. But the kids have already fled to other platforms. The amount of content produced by people in their 30s and (a lot) over is staggering. You can easily spend hours just scrolling the front page and get stuff you like. And you'll never see any one under 20 unless you specifically go look for that stuff and engage with it. I do see sca…

TikTok is an onboarding platform as well. It is being used as a place for people to advertise other wares and services they offer.

And that algorithm is very effective. It's like Google in the 2000's: nobody really knows how it works, and so they can't duplicate it.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

yawaworht1978 wrote: post #112

Influencer is the 2020s equivalent to the dream job actor/model/dancer. When I see the level of delusions on these most unwelcome tiktok ads I get, I need a moment to calm down from laughing. Stay away from social media as much as you can. I have deleted fb, ig and WhatsApp, life was never better. People get in touch via call or signal, not missing a thing.

Is WhatsApp social media? I use it to talk to my friends. Isn't WhatsApp basically just Signal with less data protection? Does that make iMessage social media?

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by conjectures »

korse wrote: post #131
virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There isn't a "real" standard as per an international organization, but there is already an emergent consensus in marketing around tiers of influencers based on number of followers. For one instance: https://www.tribegroup.co/blog/influencer-followers "Nano" influencers, according to this particular company, are people with 1000-3000 followers, Micro are 1,000-100,000, Macro are 100,000+, etc. Here's another example…

Why is this post grey?

Don't know, but putting numerical values on follower count is not likely to be that useful cross-platform due to differences in engagement level, demographics etc.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by theshadowknows »

korse wrote: post #129
bloqs wrote: post #125

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36 is an old man? Are you being facetious?

He might not be. 'Getting Old' is largely a mental choice, at least until 75 when your physical capability takes a pretty solid hit regardless of lifestyle choices. I've met people in their mid sixties who are more 'with it' than many teenagers and I've also met people in their twenties who have convinced themselves that their time has passed and there is nothing left to do but work and die. I'm mentally consigning t…

I’m fairly content with my situation :)

What I mean by old is that I don’t “get” a lot of the newer fads these days. Particularly around the social space. Instagram, Snapchat, tik-tok and the newer voice based services just seem so intrusive and crazy to me. And snap and tik-tok are almost seizure inducing with the amount of content just screaming at you.

It’s just not -for- me. And I get that. But I don’t get it :)

That and as someone else said I do wake up with the occasional creaky back. And I’m noticing more and more gray in my beard every few weeks :)

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by skinnymuch »

conjectures wrote: post #136
korse wrote: post #131

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Why is this post grey?

Don't know, but putting numerical values on follower count is not likely to be that useful cross-platform due to differences in engagement level, demographics etc.

Agreed. Tik Tok users are worth less on average than other social media. It’s going to be both the social media platform and the niche you are in that affects money to be made. The amount of posting also matters.

This is not including the important and elusive count of true influence. The basic ways are usually like/bookmark, repost, replies/comments. An overlap can also be if your posts get referenced outside the social media network a lot too.

Counting a couple thousand followers as categorization is meaningless since they could be barely interacting to really interacting. And at such a small follower count, low interaction could mean someone with a couple hundred followers is more of an influencer in terms of literal influence than someone with 10x followers.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by skinnymuch »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #110
sircastor wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the standard definition of influencer? Is there some standard being set? And by what body?

There isn't a "real" standard as per an international organization, but there is already an emergent consensus in marketing around tiers of influencers based on number of followers. For one instance: https://www.tribegroup.co/blog/influencer-followers "Nano" influencers, according to this particular company, are people with 1000-3000 followers, Micro are 1,000-100,000, Macro are 100,000+, etc. Here's another example…

It’s too simple to classify social media count at such small numbers in nano and too wide of an amount in micro.

Different social media apps and then non social media like blogs or podcasts all have different thresholds for what is considered “big”.

With smaller counts, usually if someone is following 4K and is followed by 3K, they aren’t any more “influential” than an active liked person with a couple hundred followers.

Still not perfect but looking at basic interaction metrics will help a lot more as well: likes/favs/bookmarks, reposts, replies/comments. There are overlapping metrics like embedded or referenced count outside the social media app itself. Add in trajectory, history especially to verify this isn’t a BS blip of bought interactions and followers.

Further than that, getting a general view of the cohort of followers like how many are active, how many have profile pics, how many are bots or only on to market their own stuff, etc

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by AlwaysRock »

yawaworht1978 wrote: post #112

Influencer is the 2020s equivalent to the dream job actor/model/dancer. When I see the level of delusions on these most unwelcome tiktok ads I get, I need a moment to calm down from laughing. Stay away from social media as much as you can. I have deleted fb, ig and WhatsApp, life was never better. People get in touch via call or signal, not missing a thing.

It took me a while but I've got all social media off my phone. I allow myself 5 minute of twitter in the morning (I use a block to keep me off it otherwise) and 15 minutes of hackernews.

My brain feels radically calmer than it did a few years ago. My parents have Instagram accounts. Why?

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