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The Anxiety of Influencers

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Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Hope they have the brains to not burn their income as soon as it hits their bank accounts. This sort of popularity can surely not last more than a few years in almost all instances.

The lifestyle they're put into, of living in huge mansions, eating in fancy restaurants, partying at the hottest nightclubs, virtually guarantees that they'll burn every cent they earn just keeping up appearances, even if most of it is freebies or sponsored.

This happens to celebrities mostly because they have an actual talent and are not necessarily equipped for money/fame (no one is).

Influencers probably don’t have a huge ego. They know what they are and the game they are playing. You don’t often hear about politicians spiraling downward due to their success. They understand the game they play.

In other words, why would a parasite spiral out of control if they deliberately parasitically establish themselves (versus a celebrity who gets there from sheer talent and luck and has no clue what to make of it)?.

Mega church speakers are similar. Nothing about what they do messes with their sleep at night, not an ounce of ‘Is this really who I am?’.

Textbook shamelessness.

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The big problem with this is that everyone in their formative years (sub 30) shares at least one dilemma with Patrick Bateman (and Evelyn for that matter):

Evelyn: Get married. Have a wedding.

Bateman: No, I can't take the time off work.

Evelyn: Your father practically owns the company. You can do anything you like, silly.

Bateman: I don't want to talk about it.

Evelyn: Well, you hate that job anyway. Why don't you just quit? You don't have to work.

Bateman: Because I want...to fit...in.

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Influencers are going to win this fight sadly.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

#112
Influencer is the 2020s equivalent to the dream job actor/model/dancer.

When I see the level of delusions on these most unwelcome tiktok ads I get, I need a moment to calm down from laughing.

Stay away from social media as much as you can. I have deleted fb, ig and WhatsApp, life was never better. People get in touch via call or signal, not missing a thing.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

#113

Man. When I was 18 I was overweight and already balding. I worked at a gas station. Once a hooker spit on me because I wouldn’t let her steal some ice cream. I cut my foot once on broken glass in the dumpster because part of my job was tamping it down with my feet (it cut through my shoe). Would I have traded it to be an influencer if I could have? Shit yeah in a heartbeat. But unfortunately for me no one wanted to w…

Jim Jefferies-Secret to Happiness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvYJeLUXMG8

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love the source for this. It seems too ridiculous to be true unless they're using a non-standard definition of 'influencer'.

What is the standard definition of influencer? Is there some standard being set? And by what body?

Don't overthink it. People read this question as, do you want people to give you money because you are popular? And they responded with a resounding, "I guess".

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love the source for this. It seems too ridiculous to be true unless they're using a non-standard definition of 'influencer'.

What is the standard definition of influencer? Is there some standard being set? And by what body?

The parent obviously means standard in the statistical sense not the bureaucratic sense.

The standard definition is more or less "someone who posts glamorous shots of themselves on social media to build an audience they can influence and then monetize". A non-standard definition would be one which most people would find misleading or not fitting for the term.

I also wonder what the poll looked like, I find it hard to believe people over 30 would want to become influencers unless it was worded something like "Would you like to make millions of dollars if it meant becoming an influencer?"

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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> According to a poll released in 2019, some 54 percent of Americans between the ages of thirteen and thirty-eight would, if given the chance, become a social-media influencer. A whopping 23 percent believed that this term already fit them. EDIT: Jesus, this article is the gift that keeps giving: > Later, when I ask Chase [about the veracity of the video he] explains that the video must be legit because “it’s gotten…

The tone of the article was something else. What a great writer. That sentence was equally impactful to me. The closing two sentences were as well.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

#117

I'm a millennial and didn't really have social media growing up. I used Facebook for a little bit in college and then deleted it. It bothered me in my 20s that a lot of social things seemed to be closed to me because I didn't have some form of social media. Even though I had email and text I was somehow treated as if I was asking to be contacted on a fax machine or something like that. It's baffling. Every time I've…

> I was shocked by the 54% of younger people wanting to make money being an influencer comment

Honestly, I think it just seems to most like the current 'easy money' route. I'm in the UK - I can remember reading an alarming statistic 15 or so years ago, in the hey day of "Nuts" and "Zoo" magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuts_(magazine)), regarding the number of young girls who wanted to be a Page 3/Topless model when they were old enough. Because at that time, they were always in the red top papers, with footballer boyfriends, etc etc.

In 2021 you can be a no one, spend a few weeks on "Love Island" and end up with a million followers on Instagram. Your feed is then full of expensive clothes and shoes (#gifted), and there's an article every week about how "[name] from [show] gets £xx,xxx for a single Instagram post!"

Why bother working in an office, or building a business, or learning a skill or a trade - when 20 minutes a day of revealing photos can make you more money than your parents earn? (See also: OnlyFans)

Ironically, I think (and the article seems to show) the bulk of the really successful influencers are the ones that treat it like a business and actually work hard at it and creating content.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

#118
post #14

> You’re trying to impress everyone who watches the video, and you want everyone to like it. This is where the race to the emotional rock bottom starts. What if those influencers become irrelevant in 10 years time and are replaced by another generation? The key here is to expand to other ventures. The ones who stay on the same platform for years will gradually become irrelevant.

What do you mean 'if'? They're about as disposable as toilet paper. They are created to be disposable and nothing is moderating that impulse at all. Hell, back in the times of Motown they made the child stars go to school. This is in some ways less organized than, but also less moral than, the music business and the film industry. And that takes some DOING, to be worse than the music business and the film industry. I…

>They're about as disposable as toilet paper.

At least toilet paper serves a useful function.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Realistically I think it's probably targeted at anyone who's willing to [get someone to] spend money on it. Conspicuous consumption has been a thing for ages, and it's always been about presenting an image as having enough disposable income to be able to buy these sorts of things. The fact that some kids have parents who can afford to lavish this stuff on them only adds to the mystique. I'd argue that it's also inacc…

Conspicuous consumption started with the invention of Santa Claus. Rolex and Mercedes leverage the snob effect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snob_effect

It's way older than that. There are ancient Greek philosophers who seemingly devoted their careers to criticizing the phenomenon. I would guess it goes even further back, but, past some point, writing down one's thoughts on the subject wouldn't have been available to anyone who might want to write down their thoughts on the subject.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

#120
post #36

I think TikTok is fundamentally changing marketing. If you go on YouTube, you see 1-2 traditional ads. On TikTok all the ads blend in and just appear as another video in your for you page. What I thought was really interesting was that 50% of the user base is over the age of 30.

Because it lets adult men watch young scantily clad boys and girls jump around for free. That’s the sick part to me. These kids (and they are kids) are basically soft core porn for pedophiles. And Nike and Amazon subsidize it.

That's how it started yes, preteens and teens doing dances and lip-syncing to songs. But the kids have already fled to other platforms.

The amount of content produced by people in their 30s and (a lot) over is staggering. You can easily spend hours just scrolling the front page and get stuff you like. And you'll never see any one under 20 unless you specifically go look for that stuff and engage with it.

I do see scantily clad people, but they're mostly in their 30s or 40s. =)

The TokTok algorithm is scary good, it makes Youtube and FB suggestion engines look like someone's high-school project...

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