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Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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Interesting read. It sort of states the obvious, but one of the hallmarks of today's world, is that everyone "just knows" stuff, without actually ever "coming out and saying it." As far as rejection goes, I'm very fortunate, as I can take my toys and go home, if no one wants to play with me. I worked for many years, for a corporation that had a culture of excellence. It could be grating, near-abusive, and frustrating…

> one of the things that I've learned to do, through many painful years of hard work, is have enough personal self-regard, that the opinions and maltreatment from others doesn't have damaging effects. That's a really great quote... a lot of people need to learn this. Offense must be taken to have an effect. You can choose to not take it. Please don't misinterpret this to read like it's ok to intentionally go around t…

Somebody posted something a day or two ago, about why Russians don't smile.

It has nothing to do with whether or not they are happy or like/dislike people. It's just a cultural thing.

Americans can interpret this as "they don't like me," and Russians can interpret Americans smiling as "they are laughing at me."

Doesn't mean we can't get along. It just means that we need to be open to learning about the culture of others.

If I have an unsmiling Russian friend (I have), then I shouldn't insist that they smile on my behalf, and they shouldn't insist that I stop smiling on theirs.

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I find it funny that english sometimes uses german words. But "exfreund" actually implies a sexual relationship, just saying.

Yup, as German native speaker I can confirm that. You wouldn't normally use the term for someone you haven't had a romantic relationship with.

Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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Before WW2, people were living together more often. Apartment buildings were less common.

Today we are all atomized and individualized. Individual kitchen, bathrooms and living rooms are the source of the problem.

We feel rejected because our brain are naturally wired for a need of social interaction. It's a normal and legit emotion.

In earlier times, people lived closer together. We experienced prosperous large homes, but now unemployment and other jobs are making social life difficult.

In my view, neighborhoods should have a large living space for people to live together: read, talk, eat, etc. Since communism ended this concept of the commons died.

We are all depressed to go back home to rest in an empty apartment.

Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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Frankly as much as I read it (twice now) I find nothing good or bad to say, I don't seem to get the point and maybe someone can enlighten me? Is this a piece about how people became fragile at the face of delayed gratification or when something doesn't go their usual way (it seems a twitter unfollow initiated this whole thing)? So many questions. I understand that for some, that represents a drama which surely begs t…

From how I understand the post, it's about the disconnect between human nature and modern relations (personal, romantic, professional, etc) As humans we have a limit to how much rejection we can process in a healthy way. It varies from person to person, some can process things pretty quickly while others (like myself) quickly reach a breaking point This becomes an issue, when (as the author points out), we try to rat…

I get your point and thank you very much for taking the time to write a detailed answer for me.

Put like this it makes a whole lot of sense now, I was maybe just distracted by the examples the author brought in which confused me. It really shows that there's a spectrum of possible ways on how to deal with rejection that I am not aware of.

I never took rejection personally but in contrary saw it as a challenge. Maybe that helps to frame why I wrote my initial question. I agree that it's tirening to have to work twice or 3 times as hard as others for the same result and having more roadblocks on the way (metaphor for rejection) but one thing that is sure to me, I never really gave any importance to emotional rejection because that one is very subjective and I don't understand why people think how they think. I might lack the emotional intelligence?

The one that might have challenged me the most was rejection at work or rejection for just having a foreign name or foreign face because the latter is a checklist with all the marks ticked but still, something didn't quite fit completely.

Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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There is this other school of thought where you actively embrace rejection. Quotes like the following (paraphrased) show this:

- If you have no enemies, you're not doing something important

- If you don't fail 90% of the time, you're not pushing your boundaries hard enough

The idea being that once you get rejected often enough, you lose your fear of it and you start becoming authentic and true to yourself.

Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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Frankly as much as I read it (twice now) I find nothing good or bad to say, I don't seem to get the point and maybe someone can enlighten me? Is this a piece about how people became fragile at the face of delayed gratification or when something doesn't go their usual way (it seems a twitter unfollow initiated this whole thing)? So many questions. I understand that for some, that represents a drama which surely begs t…

The article didn’t resonate with me at all either, but I think it’s mainly because I don’t fit into the collective “we” the author talks about.

> We apply to hundreds of jobs. We swipe on hundreds if not thousands of people on dating apps. Many of us are like me, and perpetually have an infinite loop of notifications on an infinite loop of communication apps.

Naturally if you go head first into potentially thousands of interactions, there will be a lot of rejection.

To me, friends and social media are separate concepts, but I understand that most mix the two.

Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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post #13

Before WW2, people were living together more often. Apartment buildings were less common. Today we are all atomized and individualized. Individual kitchen, bathrooms and living rooms are the source of the problem. We feel rejected because our brain are naturally wired for a need of social interaction. It's a normal and legit emotion. In earlier times, people lived closer together. We experienced prosperous large home…

I remember in university I lived in a house with 8 people. We would all gather for dinner, often with a few extras from out of the house. It was such a wonderful feeling (and wonderfully efficient, you only had to cook once a week!).

The idea of communal spaces needs to come back. I don't think it would be too hard for a 10-story apartment block to offer a communal area, especially as the shops that were often on the first and second floors are going out of business due to online shopping.

Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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We have more opportunities to interact with more people from all walks of life from all over the world in a way that is unprecedented. Marginalized groups have found ways to connect to people like them (which would have been impossible in the past). They've found validation about their identity and made real friends. There's so many positive aspects about the society and world we live in today. But because there's so much opportunity for connection today, there's also so many more opportunities for rejection which, as the author puts it, "becomes a painful memory, no matter how many."

Occasionally I'll think to look up someone that I hadn't thought of in a while on Facebook, only to find that they, some time ago, removed me from their friends list. No matter how far removed we were from each other in real life, this always kind of stings. The action requires effort on their part; they look at my profile and evaluate our friendship, or lack thereof, and actively decide that no, they don't want me to be a part of their life anymore, no matter how socially removed Facebook is from it. I've been removed and rejected from participating in their life in this way.

I've also dealt with people of whom I thought I was pretty close and they suddenly drop all contact with me. What did I do to make her not want to be my friend anymore? I don't know. Should I have done something differently? Probably. Is she going through some shit? I don't know and I can't find out. It's frustrating and depressing and is damaging to my already fragile ego.

I don't really have any friends, anymore. There are people that I will occasionally talk to but every year it feels like I've become more and more isolated, despite the fact that there's so much more available out there. Internal factors like depression, anxiety, and ADHD play a part, for sure. When you stop participating in social activities enough for long enough, even the most loyal friends will stop putting in the effort to maintain a relationship with you when they get so little back in return. It's selfish to expect them to do so.

Life marches forward at an almost cruel pace. It doesn't care that I need a breather. That I'm starving for affection or that I'm searching for the faintest drop of connection with another human being. It cares not that the rejections are piling up on top of me making it gradually harder and harder for me to move. It continues on and I have to keep moving forward. Hopefully at some point on the way I can find someone who, if not ease my burden, can at least commiserate as we continue to march forward through it together.

Re: Rejection Sensitivity

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It’s possible countries with mega populations don’t have this problem. I wonder if people in India or China have any disillusion that they are one out of a billion in their country, and are nothing special. It’s possible they value whatever the hell life gives them (whatever friends they have, whatever family, whatever job, etc).

The west is taught that we are unique. Really? Let me connect everyone to the internet and show you how untrue that is. Now what do you value?

It’s the type of existential crisis of finding out you are really not to the right of the normal distribution, and in fact, dead smack in the middle (or to the left, horrifyingly).

Someone can easily stop talking to you. You didn’t sincerely believe you were special did you?

Could be wrong though.

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