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"The Buddhists think you don’t quit addictions, you become a new person who isn’t an addict." This is such an amazing quote

Makes me think they have not met a single addict ever. This quote makes absolutely zero sense. Most addicts stay addicts for the rest of their lives. They fight their addiction most days if not every day.

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Since there seem to be past smokers in this thread, can any of you chime in for me what smoking did or does for you? I don't mean this as a insult, but I've never understood the addiction, at this point I feel like it's impossible for me to experience, and I don't desire to. I've smoked maybe a dozen or so times in my life, each time a dumb decision often for comedic effect where I asked myself afterwards, "am I addi…

If you didn’t actually inhale smoke, than it is hard to feel anything.

If you did and you did not see any immediate physical effects, than good for you (as it was really hard for you to get addicted).

When I smoked, even after a few years of smoking, first cigarette a day, or a cigarette after a few hours of break, would have quite dramatic effect on me - buzz/dizziness, increased heart rate, and feeling lightly stunned.

Note that I tried vaping (at the same time as I was smoking) and I felt almost nothing comparing to cigarettes - I got “better” results with snuff tobacco than with vaping.

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I smoke occasionally with friends during parties and never after. I've been doing this for a few years now and haven't gotten addicted. This is probably due to the fact the I was heavily addicted to video games during college and kinda of have a mental resistance now.

Smoking occasionally with friends is fun. Especially during cold weather.

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Why do people start smoking? Surely they know it's addictive, expensive, and bad for you

I don't smoke, but my roommate does. After living in the same house for a couple of years, now, I think I understand the social aspect of why people start. A cigarette break is the perfect amount of time to sit down and have a little chat, and provides a reason to stop once it's done, too. Meet on the deck, catch up on each other's day, see you later, back to work. That kind of thing.

This is not why people start though, see DowsingSpoon’s comment above as to how that happens, it nearly always involves alcohol. This is what people do once they are already addicted, and then use socialisation and relaxation as a post-hoc justification to rationalise or even deny their addiction.

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Alcohol has gourmet attributes and is a good social lubricant. The question is more around whether those two attributes warrant ingesting what is essentially poison. I don't think I've ever heard a cigarette smoker comment on the taste of their cigarette (cigars are the exception here) and the high, especially for regular smokers, is near non-existent. So for cigarettes the initial appeal is much less obvious. I'd as…

>Alcohol has gourmet attributes and is a good social lubricant smoking was a good social lubricant as well. you can see that in the old Hollywood movies and in real life back when smoking was the social norm.

Alcohol is regarded as lowering inhibitions, which allows people to express themselves honestly and break down boundaries while returning to the normal social order the next day.

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The thing about smoking is that when you quit smoking you quit it every day. Imagine a light switch on the wall. You turn it off by quitting smoking and you can always go back at a desperate time for instance and turn it on. And some time later off again. Smoking your first cigarette implants that light switch on your mind and you can't make it go away. Since you know how it makes you feel good when the switch is on,…

I agree with you and stopped-started smoking on and on for years. I stopped again a year and a half ago. I'm luckily in the phase in which I totally reject the smell of cigarettes (especially packed: rolling tobacco is less harsh); I found that wearing the mask and passing in a cloud of smoke traps that awful smell in my face for much longer and it becomes much more nauseating. One more point for wearing surgical masks in public, I guess.

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I agree. I quit smoking back in 2016 and I don’t think of myself as a smoker at all anymore. I sometimes have to remind myself I used to smoke.

Why do people start smoking? Surely they know it's addictive, expensive, and bad for you

Yes, they do. But people are not programs. Wondering why people behave irrational is a bit like wondering why rain is wet.

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Fun fact: Stuttgart is considered to be one of the worst cities in Germany with regards to air pollution, because of the geography ("Stuttgarter Kessel"). But the difference between any other German city and Stuttgart is obviously negligible when compared to Peking.

"Peking"? What?

Peking == Beijing. It’s the more phonetic translation of the mandarin name for the city.

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I quit smoking ten years ago (smoked for about 15y before that) and the only thing I miss is the enforced ritual to go stand outside for 5-10 minutes. I’d pay for an addictive product that gave me that back without killing me!

When I was much younger I was the only non-smoker in an office of about 10 people. This included the owner and his wife who also worked there. Several times a day one or more of them would spend ~15 minutes loitering around smoking a cigarette. I'm prone to throwing myself into my work, even back then, and so initially this didn't really bother me. But, eventually the imbalance in workplace expectations, around sched…

I find people that envy smokers for their breaks pretty pathetic. All it really implies is that these envious people dont know how to manage their own time. If I want a break, I take a break. If I dont need a break, I go on. But that doesnt have anything to do with my coworkers. As long as I am not the boss, its not my bussiness to do time management for others.

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Since there seem to be past smokers in this thread, can any of you chime in for me what smoking did or does for you? I don't mean this as a insult, but I've never understood the addiction, at this point I feel like it's impossible for me to experience, and I don't desire to. I've smoked maybe a dozen or so times in my life, each time a dumb decision often for comedic effect where I asked myself afterwards, "am I addi…

It has many layers. From the physical sensation, think of the relief you get from satisfying a need like eating or resting. It's a ritual, a routine that reassures you. It's an excuse to stop.
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