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Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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To give an opposite opinion form the same time period. I found WordStar much more difficult to come to grips with than WordPerfect. WordPerfect 4.2 with a XT layout keyboard is by far my favorite word processor experience to date.

I could never get to grips with WP's use of function keys. In fact, I hate all software that uses function keys.

I love function keys but I hated the combos that WP used. There were just too many.

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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I use JOE as my programming (and general purpose) editor, which is modeled after WordStar in a lot of ways. Once, I happened upon a WordStar installation and was able to use it just fine, because I already knew the concepts (I think the command prefix isn't ^K though, so it felt a bit off?)

Joe (or jstar) is my go to console editor.

Does it still save bak files everywhere though? I used it for a while and it littered folders everywhere with them as it doesn't clean them up. I tried turning it off but an update came through that changed something and turned it back on, and then I came across nano which felt nicer :)

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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I wish there was a console version of this. Linux really lacks a good writing app for console. All the text editors don't do on-the-fly word-wrapping (while not inserting a real line ending). Makes sense for a text editor that's normally used for config files and programming, but I would really want something more like a word processor. There's wordgrinder but it's not great for this, it has a proprietary format so I…

The venerable joe editor (https://joe-editor.sourceforge.io) is apparently very comfortable for Wordstar users. I used it for a few years in college before I could afford enough RAM to run emacs and although I never actually used Wordstar myself and cant compare it that way, I really liked using joe and can still remember a lot of the keybindings 20+ years later.

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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Are you asking the author(s) of a project that emulates a decades-old word processor so that people don't have to learn to use a newer word processor to learn to use a newer code hosting platform? I guess this project is the very embodiment of "force of habit"...

MS-DOS 1.25 (1983) is on Github https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS

Ah, but is git on dos 1.25?

Asking for a friend.

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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I used WordStar on CP/M for a good many homework assignments in elementary and high school.

JOE (Joe's Own Editor) has WordStar-inspired key bindings. I used that just a very little bit thirty years ago.

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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It's really interesting to compare the niche word processors of the 90s to those today, especially those targeted specifically for writers [1]. The former are all wildly different each other and from the latter, which are basically all "Microsoft Word but with chapters/folders" now -- with a few extra features tacked onto the good ones.

I'd love to see some word processors pop up that are fundamentally different again.

[1] https://www.fiction.tools/#writing-word-processors

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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I can appreciate this. I've written thousands of articles in Sublime Text. Sublime is not my favorite editor for coding, I prefer IntelliJ there, but sublime is beautifully simple for writing and basic editing. Being able to refactor the story, by moving sentences and paragraphs the way we refactor code, is wonderful.

After I'm happy with the first draft, I'll drop the text into google docs for a second set of eyes on spelling and grammar (I find the google docs grammar check superior to any other word processor).

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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Interesting. I use commercial softmaker on Linux. They offer a scaled down free version: https://www.freeoffice.com/en/

If you look for an odd program try this: https://www.papyrusauthor.com/

Made for professional writes. Last time I tried it, I must say, it was fast as f.. (Installed with WIne under Linux)

Re: WordTsar, a WordStar Clone

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Why host the project on SourceForge? Just force of habit? Other code forges don't look better enough to justify the effort of moving? Or are there actively good things about SourceForge these days?

Sourceforge is one of the few left that support Mercurial, which I use.

sr.ht supports Mercurial as well. And fits well with the old-school vibe.

But feel free to use SourceForge - fine by me. I just wish SF would hide unused stuff from the project page. The new UI is a ton better, but as an example, this project still has 'wiki' and 'git' links, even though they're both empty.

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