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Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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Re: Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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On some bright news. Thanks to declining American manufacturing (thanks China) The Detroit River has bounced back.

Giant 'river monster' fish found in Detroit River may be over 100 years old

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/us/sturgeon-fish-intl-scli/in...

Re: Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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Interestingly there is a term for the last known member of a species: Endling [1]. Scrolling through that Wikipedia article always gives me an eerie feeling. It looks like the Chinese paddlefish is not listed yet though.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endling

Re: Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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Nothing; that's what the title should be. The guidelines ask you to use the original title, and not try to summarize the article yourself in the submission title.

HN has guidelines , not rules , and there are times when they can be bent. For titles, finding (or manufacturing) one that's clearer based on actual article text is a common alternative. I've suggested "Chinese paddlefish has gone extinct due to overfishing and dams" to the moderators. (Much of that phrase occurs within the article.)

I don't think we disagree. The important point is that it's not the job (or the privilege) of the submitter to determine for everyone else what the most important angle on the story is. Titles are community property. That's exactly what went wrong here.

Re: Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN has guidelines , not rules , and there are times when they can be bent. For titles, finding (or manufacturing) one that's clearer based on actual article text is a common alternative. I've suggested "Chinese paddlefish has gone extinct due to overfishing and dams" to the moderators. (Much of that phrase occurs within the article.)

I don't think we disagree. The important point is that it's not the job (or the privilege) of the submitter to determine for everyone else what the most important angle on the story is. Titles are community property. That's exactly what went wrong here.

Agreed to that point.

Re: Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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There are no organizations in China that oppose the government openly. At least not for long. The Chinese government has roving vans that execute dissidents and harvest their organs right outside their house. The CCP cares about the environment insofar as it benefits China. They probably do not care about a fish going extinct the way we do.

That sounds highly suspect: "The Chinese government has roving vans that execute dissidents and harvest their organs right outside their house."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_van

PRC does not deny they exist, nor denies that organs are harvested after. There are pictures of them online, and notable cases where it was the officially recorded method of execution.

Re: Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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I recall visiting the Yangtze river by boat tour around 1997. This was before the dam was built and the place was beautiful. Imagine the grand canyon but it was covered with lush vegetation. We visited a center where there were models of the three gorges dam would soon to be built. On the tour they said we would be the last tourists to see the Yangtze as it stands, after the dam, many landmarks/settlements would be f…

Peter Hessler writes about his experience in Sichuan during the time the three gorges dam was being built [1]. Many people have had to sacrifice a lot for these dams. However, IIRC many receive some form of compensation from the government (adequate or not).

[1]https://www.amazon.com/River-Town-Years-Yangtze-P-S/dp/00608...

Re: Chinese paddlefish, one of the world's largest fish, declared extinct

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editorializing the title is addressed in the guidelines https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Yes, that was bad. Submitted title was "Yangtze dam separates Paddlefish, largest, from spawn, now extinct". That spawned a whole school of complaints and offtopicness in its own right. We've changed it now.

Submitters: please don't do that. If you want to say what you think is important about an article, that's fine, but do it by adding a comment to the thread. Then your view will be on a level playing field with everyone else's: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

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