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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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cm2187 wrote: post #120
userbinator wrote: post #64

10 or 15 years ago, this behaviour would universally be called adware and shunned, yet now Microsoft does it too? In addition to the Windows 10 alert, Microsoft Edge has also gained a new full-screen prompt that advises users to restore the ‘recommended’ browser and set Bing as the default search engine. ...complete with Corporate Memphis[1]. That screenshot sums up just about everything I hate about "modern" softwar…

To Microsoft's defense everyone does it. Everytime there is an OS update on iOS, I know I will have to go through a dozen of modals that nag me for apple services.

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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Post by asddubs »

cm2187 wrote: post #120
userbinator wrote: post #64

10 or 15 years ago, this behaviour would universally be called adware and shunned, yet now Microsoft does it too? In addition to the Windows 10 alert, Microsoft Edge has also gained a new full-screen prompt that advises users to restore the ‘recommended’ browser and set Bing as the default search engine. ...complete with Corporate Memphis[1]. That screenshot sums up just about everything I hate about "modern" softwar…

To Microsoft's defense everyone does it. Everytime there is an OS update on iOS, I know I will have to go through a dozen of modals that nag me for apple services.

and if you visit google properties in edge, you get asked to install chrome, i think on youtube it calls it a browser "optimized for youtube" or something along those lines. To be clear, I'm not trying to justify microsofts behaviour, I think neither of these things should happen.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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grishka wrote: post #96
thih9 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get the hate towards Corporate Memphis. I'm not sure what would be better instead; a stock photo seems just as bad. To me the problem isn't in what the ad looks like, but that the ad is there. I also don't like that the ad is shown to a particular group of people, i.e. ones who aren't doing what lies in the company's best interests.

Greedy corporations trying their damnest to be cutesy and humanlike just make me cringe. That's all.

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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Post by asddubs »

skinkestek wrote: post #95
skipnup wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Putting a word in quotes achieves the same effect nowadays

No, not for many of us at least. Has't worked reliably for me and a number of others for close to a decade I think (the first blog post I know of that mention it is from 2011 or 2013 I think.) Oh, and I think it is the same thing as others mention in this discussion: infantilization and "we know better than you". But being Google it might also be just general lack of care.

i believe there's a setting somewhere to enable verbatim search, but yeah google has steadily been getting worse

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Post by AnonymousPlanet »

cm2187 wrote: post #120
userbinator wrote: post #64

10 or 15 years ago, this behaviour would universally be called adware and shunned, yet now Microsoft does it too? In addition to the Windows 10 alert, Microsoft Edge has also gained a new full-screen prompt that advises users to restore the ‘recommended’ browser and set Bing as the default search engine. ...complete with Corporate Memphis[1]. That screenshot sums up just about everything I hate about "modern" softwar…

To Microsoft's defense everyone does it. Everytime there is an OS update on iOS, I know I will have to go through a dozen of modals that nag me for apple services.

No. Neither my Mac nor my Linux pop up ads or promotions out of the blue during normal operation. So your statement that everyone does it is simply false.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Post by asddubs »

cyberge99 wrote: post #53
jrsj wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google really started this though. And they didn’t use anti competitive advertising practices to kill IE, they used them to kill Firefox.

Firefox is far from dead. I switched back to Firefox from Chrome and it’s been freeing. The extension migration was a pain, but I found almost everything I needed and purged stuff I didn’t.

i'm a firefox user, but firefox is 2,4% from being dead. that's still a lot of people but dangerously close to the kind of numbers where people stop bothering to test if their websites work in it (if they were even doing it to begin with, let's be honest)

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Post by Macha »

impendia wrote: post #134
Macha wrote: post #8

I'm sick of tech companies giving the only way to decline their preferred approach as "maybe later". No, I'm sure I don't want Bing or Edge next month either. If I change my mind I'm perfectly capable of finding the setting and even if I wasn't I'm sure it's only a DDG (or Bing I guess) search away to docs I'm almost certain you will have

When Microsoft updates Windows 10, they try to get you to sign in to a Microsoft account and present the options "Continue" and "Remind me in 3 days". No, Microsoft, how about "no"? Or "fuck off"?

Oh yes, I remember immediately googling how to turn this one off. It's a checkbox in settings that's labelled something along the lines of "suggest ways to improve my windows experience"

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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impendia wrote: post #134
Macha wrote: post #8

I'm sick of tech companies giving the only way to decline their preferred approach as "maybe later". No, I'm sure I don't want Bing or Edge next month either. If I change my mind I'm perfectly capable of finding the setting and even if I wasn't I'm sure it's only a DDG (or Bing I guess) search away to docs I'm almost certain you will have

When Microsoft updates Windows 10, they try to get you to sign in to a Microsoft account and present the options "Continue" and "Remind me in 3 days". No, Microsoft, how about "no"? Or "fuck off"?

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