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In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by crossroadsguy »

CryptoPunk wrote: post #110
qart wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For an Indian example where the links between crime and government are more direct, there was a recent scandal where a disgraced Mumbai Police Commissioner wrote an open letter where he said his (also disgraced) subordinate was tasked by the state's Home Minister to extort 13 million USD from the city's businessmen every month . Heck, I assumed that nearly all politicians and a lot of policemen here are thoroughly co…

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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by RobertoG »

totalZero wrote: post #72
boterock wrote: post #11

About that last sentence: "former U.S. Ambassador [...] said in April that López Obrador views the fight against drug cartels as a distraction ... So he has basically adopted an agenda of a pretty laissez-faire attitude towards them, which is pretty troubling to our government, obviously.” Not from Mexico, but from Colombia, where we also have a very hard time with drugs. The real problem with drugs has never been he…

Exploitation in the drug market happens in the reverse of what you think. The target market is the first world, because the product has maximal value there. The positive externalities are all gained by the producer countries. Traffickers and coca producers have even risen to become major politicians in places like Venezuela and Bolivia. Meanwhile, negative externalities -- crime, addiction, and so forth -- get distri…

Why Mexico or Colombia should care about exporting drugs? As you say, it could be a net win for them.

Instead of that we see a state of war in the country, because the pressures of the "big bad USA" and their "war on drugs". I suppose it's easier to have a war when the deaths are in other countries.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by redis_mlc »

This has been reported in the US press for decades.

Mexican cartels send a rep to your door, and ask you, "Silver or lead?"

Also, it's also been reported if there's a "stable" government, it's been completely bought off - otherwise there wouldn't be stability. For example, when there's a dramatic prison break using a mile-long tunnel, officials had to be involved.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by darkhorse22 »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #151
CryptoPunk wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>Edit: I wonder how imprudent it was of me to not use a VPN'd account to write this comment. Unless they can hack HN servers to check its logs, I don't see how they'd track down the IP from where your comment was submitted from.

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Post by c0nducktr »

sebmellen wrote: post #59
yellow_lead wrote: post #53

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The video you linked to titles it a cash in transit heist. Was it really cellphones?

Yes, they seem to be a more valuable commodity than cash in South Africa: https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/who-is-leo-prinsloo-dri... .

This is absolutely wild. I had watched that video earlier, and assumed it was a car transporting cash.

Someone should start a drone cellphone delivery business for South Africa. It's hard to understand people putting their lives on the line like that to deliver cell phones.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by darkhorse23 »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #151
CryptoPunk wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>Edit: I wonder how imprudent it was of me to not use a VPN'd account to write this comment. Unless they can hack HN servers to check its logs, I don't see how they'd track down the IP from where your comment was submitted from.

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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by edgyquant »

iammisc wrote: post #146
edgyquant wrote: post #94

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It’s not evil. These people don’t go to bed at night thinking they are the villain. The real answer is more depressing: people have to eat. These police are part of a system that is threatening the livelihood of cartels and with the exception of a few people at the top this livelihood is what feeds theirs families.

What? You can definitely find jobs to eat in Mexico. This is the silliest take. It's not like the villages suddenly don't have land to grow food on

I mean, I didn’t say you couldn’t. But that doesn’t change the fact that cartels are businesses and the reason for these terrible things aren’t because the people are evil but because it’s their livelihood. I’d also wager that working for a cartel pays a lot better than working on a farm in Mexico. It also isn’t a “take.” When you start throwing around words like evil you are demonizing the enemy which you should never do.

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Post by darkhorse24 »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #151
CryptoPunk wrote: post #110

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>>Edit: I wonder how imprudent it was of me to not use a VPN'd account to write this comment. Unless they can hack HN servers to check its logs, I don't see how they'd track down the IP from where your comment was submitted from.

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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by asdff »

totalZero wrote: post #95

What are the arguments against two years of compulsory police (or naval) service for men at age 18 in Mexico? It would certainly alter the political dynamics of the war on drug cartels if moms nationwide were to send their sons to fight trafficking, and scooping young men out of their communities might prevent them from getting involved in criminal enterprises.

There are gang members in the U.S. who join the military to receive weapons training. It won't eliminate the problem. You will just see corrupt soldiers instead of corrupt police.
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