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In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs. Setup compounds to securely house the police forces. Change the policy to "balazos, muchos balazos".

US' politicians would make sure your government doesn't last very long.

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>It is a type of direct attack on officers seldom seen outside of the most gang-plagued nations of Central America and poses the most direct challenge yet to President Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s policy of avoiding violence and rejecting any war on the cartels. Why would the Mexican President not want to just get rid of the cartels?

Because they’ve been doing that, with not great results. This new guy got elected partially on this new approach.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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I'm reminded of this recent viral Youtube which depicts what is apparently a routine occurrence in South Africa: A professional gang, armed with heavy caliber weapons, executes a sophisticated highway ambush in an attempt to capture a vehicle loaded with cell phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAvqDF3Wujc I watched an interview with Leo Prinsloo, the star of the video. He mentioned that although this incident we…

South African here. It's not so much the state has lost its monopoly on force, but rather through years of top down corruption which has pervaded all levels of government, police and state officials aren't incentivised to be effective at combating crime.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Experience? Infrastructure? Level of development? You can act afraid of Mexico or just go there and have a good time and notice the difference. The only bad parts of Mexico is where the recognized government and the local cartel haven't ceded power and are in conflict. They both like a booming economy and market confidence, just a different strongman to pay from a user experience perspective.

Supposing my pocket is picked in a cartel-governed part of Mexico, what remedies are available?

To be fair there are few places in the world that would be able to offer you significant recourse in that situation.

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For an Indian example where the links between crime and government are more direct, there was a recent scandal where a disgraced Mumbai Police Commissioner wrote an open letter where he said his (also disgraced) subordinate was tasked by the state's Home Minister to extort 13 million USD from the city's businessmen every month . Heck, I assumed that nearly all politicians and a lot of policemen here are thoroughly co…

>>Edit: I wonder how imprudent it was of me to not use a VPN'd account to write this comment. Unless they can hack HN servers to check its logs, I don't see how they'd track down the IP from where your comment was submitted from.

They don't hack. The send legal notices to the companies. They have sent legal notices to get people on Google, Facebook, etc. I still wrote my comment assuming that HN is obscure enough for them not to be aware of it.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For an Indian example where the links between crime and government are more direct, there was a recent scandal where a disgraced Mumbai Police Commissioner wrote an open letter where he said his (also disgraced) subordinate was tasked by the state's Home Minister to extort 13 million USD from the city's businessmen every month . Heck, I assumed that nearly all politicians and a lot of policemen here are thoroughly co…

>>Edit: I wonder how imprudent it was of me to not use a VPN'd account to write this comment. Unless they can hack HN servers to check its logs, I don't see how they'd track down the IP from where your comment was submitted from.

Could be posting from inside India?

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

#128
People in countries with strong rule of law who criticize the people of countries like Brazil and Philippines for electing brutal leaders whose forces carry-out extra-judicial killings don't understand that the alternative to that brutality, is not the rule of law.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

#129

why do humans do this sort of thing?

We didn’t become the dominant species on earth by playing nice with others.

no, we became the dominant species on earth by playing nice with each other.

though that kind of thing usually plays along in-group/out-group boundaries.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Maybe they do the same that politicians do here... they keep the cops busy grabbing individuals, but they turn a blind eye to the shipments of tons that are sent via airplanes that could be intercepted easily. In the end everyone knows that it is a deal between traffickers and politicians.

Large shipments quite literally rely on small individuals being busted. For at least ten years now, border security agencies have been receiving training on how not to act in the face of a small bust. Their typical response is to start waving people through with little to no scrutiny, because all of the agents want to have some part in the bust, if at least just to have a rubbernecked sort of view at the excitement g…

Small captures are just the distraction, heck, they even made a tv show “alerta aeropuerto” where they show how efficient they are grabbing mules (that’s the name we give individuals who transport cocaine). The truth is that cocaine transportation is a business that airlines and politicians are into. Nothing unexpected, knowing the dirty records of very high security agencies from both sides.

Well, I can only speak from this side, I don’t really know what happens in the US, but here we have always been fooled by the media, so maybe it can happen there too. And we all know what politicians are capable of.

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