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In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by boterock »

About that last sentence: "former U.S. Ambassador [...] said in April that López Obrador views the fight against drug cartels as a distraction ... So he has basically adopted an agenda of a pretty laissez-faire attitude towards them, which is pretty troubling to our government, obviously.”

Not from Mexico, but from Colombia, where we also have a very hard time with drugs. The real problem with drugs has never been here. It is always because the US which always pushed us to fight drugs from this side, while they don't seem to do much from their side, this way they push the war to this side. while they get to enjoy the benefits of unregulated markets.

The true solution to the problem is regulated drug market, where the country people can make a profit out of it, and every link of the chain pays its due taxes. But cocaine is so big of a business that mafias aren't letting that happen.

US doesn't even care about cocaine, otherwise they would be doing a far better job at eliminating the trafficking. It is just that if they're not the ones making a profit, then no one should make a profit.

Typical case of a northern country exploiting a southern country.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by atatatat »

haolez wrote: post #5
ALittleLight wrote: post #4

If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs. Setup compounds to securely house the police forces. Change the policy to "balazos, muchos balazos".

The politicians are probably much less powerful than the cartels (if they are not allies). To try to pass a bill to decriminalize all drugs would probably fail and get you killed.

Multiple Mexican Presidents in the last few decades have been shown to be CIA assets, so

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Post by alex_sf »

dvt wrote: post #9
ALittleLight wrote: post #4

If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs. Setup compounds to securely house the police forces. Change the policy to "balazos, muchos balazos".

> If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs This is a naïve "Bernie bro"-style take. What do you with cartel turf wars? Legalize murder? The problem is not only complex on a local scale (city or country), but there are geopolitical pressures at play as well. Cartels tend to be very populist, often funneling money back in their communities making them (paradoxically) better. On the…

The reason cartels need to murder people at all is because the business is illegal and there is no justice system to mediate disputes. F500 CEOs aren't doing drive-bys on each other over patent infringements because they can just sue.

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Post by walrus01 »

dvt wrote: post #9
ALittleLight wrote: post #4

If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs. Setup compounds to securely house the police forces. Change the policy to "balazos, muchos balazos".

> If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs This is a naïve "Bernie bro"-style take. What do you with cartel turf wars? Legalize murder? The problem is not only complex on a local scale (city or country), but there are geopolitical pressures at play as well. Cartels tend to be very populist, often funneling money back in their communities making them (paradoxically) better. On the…

Cartels only exist because of its illegality. Same reason alcohol smuggling gangsters existed during the US prohibition era.

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by kiba »

alex_sf wrote: post #14
dvt wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I were running things in Mexico I would legalize or decriminalize all drugs This is a naïve "Bernie bro"-style take. What do you with cartel turf wars? Legalize murder? The problem is not only complex on a local scale (city or country), but there are geopolitical pressures at play as well. Cartels tend to be very populist, often funneling money back in their communities making them (paradoxically) better. On the…

The reason cartels need to murder people at all is because the business is illegal and there is no justice system to mediate disputes. F500 CEOs aren't doing drive-bys on each other over patent infringements because they can just sue.

Why would the cartels want to legalize drugs?

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by gftttgggfffddd »

sergiotapia wrote: post #8
alex-wallish wrote: post #3

why do humans do this sort of thing?

blame drug addicted garbage that keep shoving that shit up their noses.

I think drug users should be called out for supporting this violent industry similar to how drunk drivers, sexual harassers, and racists are social pariahs

Re: In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

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Post by TimTheTinker »

alex-wallish wrote: post #3

why do humans do this sort of thing?

An equivalent question is: why does human evil exist?

Your answer will depend on your worldview -- your beliefs on matters like origin, meaning, morality, and destiny.

If you're not sure, I'd suggest evaluating candidate worldviews with an eye toward comparing the extent to which their propositions correspond to reality and are internally consistent.

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