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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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LTSC is the answer (despite what MS "advocates" will tell you) no autoreboot, no MS store, no onedrive, no ads I've had a legitimate copy on my gaming pc for 18 months now without issue aliexpress has an excellent range of grey market keys...

You can't have a legitimate copy of LTSC unless you've got volume licencing.

Pro with a decrapifier script like the one you can find on Spiceworks will work a lot better, and allow you to run UWP games too.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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If you are forced to put up with Windows, do yourself a favor and use LSTC. Almost all of this garbage behavior seems to be restricted to the retail channel builds and major update packs. Sadly there is apparently no limit to what people will be conditioned to put up with.

> do yourself a favor and use LSTC

Would be nice if you could mention how your typical reader could feasibly (and legally) do this.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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If you are forced to put up with Windows, do yourself a favor and use LSTC. Almost all of this garbage behavior seems to be restricted to the retail channel builds and major update packs. Sadly there is apparently no limit to what people will be conditioned to put up with.

> do yourself a favor and use LSTC Would be nice if you could mention how your typical reader could feasibly (and legally) do this.

https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2167558-explicit-inst...

If you want to be 100% legit.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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post #13

LTSC is the answer (despite what MS "advocates" will tell you) no autoreboot, no MS store, no onedrive, no ads I've had a legitimate copy on my gaming pc for 18 months now without issue aliexpress has an excellent range of grey market keys...

You can't have a legitimate copy of LTSC unless you've got volume licencing. Pro with a decrapifier script like the one you can find on Spiceworks will work a lot better, and allow you to run UWP games too.

> You can't have a legitimate copy of LTSC unless you've got volume licencing.

Apparently the minimum for getting a VL agreement is 5 licenses, and the other 4 can be padded out with cheap/filler licenses. https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2167558-explicit-inst...

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Why use LTSC over, say, Pro? Genuinely curious. I have been running 16299 on Pro since about when it came out. I would be running win2k if drivers, etc were updated for it.

LTSC/LTSB doesn’t have the Windows App Store - and to my knowledge you can’t install it either. Pro cones with the App Store and to my knowledge you can’t uninstall it.

>and to my knowledge you can’t install it either

Yes you can. https://github.com/kkkgo/LTSC-Add-MicrosoftStore

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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I'm not surprised by this anymore. They've gone from full anti-trust lawsuit for Internet Explorer, to just riding the cliff edge of what they believe they can get away with. See: Skype, Teams installer, Office. This will continue as long as it's in their interest to be in control of as much of the software stack as possible. Another side of their underhanded marketing is where decision makers looking at collaboratio…

The anti-trust thing was kind of ridiculous, though. Would you have preferred to have to get a floppy disk in order to install a web browser? How about Acer replacing IE with its own piece of shit browser in OEM builds? (hypothetical) Looking back, I don't think that was a good use of the Sherman antitrust act.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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I'm sick of tech companies giving the only way to decline their preferred approach as "maybe later". No, I'm sure I don't want Bing or Edge next month either. If I change my mind I'm perfectly capable of finding the setting and even if I wasn't I'm sure it's only a DDG (or Bing I guess) search away to docs I'm almost certain you will have

This deserves a wall of shame

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Windows 7 is a fine OS if you don't connect it to the Internet, but it's basically screaming "hack me" everywhere you go online. A few occasional mild annoyances from the marketing team is worth tolerating for a reasonably secure operating system. I'd argue people who feel otherwise need to reprioritize their risks.

Genuinely interested, why would Win7 be worse than Win10 if you had the same network setup, same browser (same extensions) and behaved the same as you do with Win10? I ask as even at home, my different devices all use the same browser/extensions, VPN and browsing habits. I use established FOSS where possible and the only problems I have had since Windows 98 are from data breaches (nothing I could have prevented with…

Chrome end of support on Win 7 is in only 7 months from now.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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If you are forced to put up with Windows, do yourself a favor and use LSTC. Almost all of this garbage behavior seems to be restricted to the retail channel builds and major update packs. Sadly there is apparently no limit to what people will be conditioned to put up with.

> do yourself a favor and use LSTC Would be nice if you could mention how your typical reader could feasibly (and legally) do this.

Microsoft licensing is such a byzantine hellscape that this assuredly is more complicated than can be easily summarized, but pretty much any of their resellers do have VL upgrade options. I don't normally like linking to vendors as it's not my job to drive them sales, but one of the top links off DDG:

https://softwaremedia.com/shop/microsoft-windows-10-enterpri...

Many people will find themselves happily hoisting a jolly roger with a KMS emulator (several on github) given that they very likely already paid for a retail license of Windows and LTSC is basically just Windows 10 minus all the horrible annoying shit.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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My favorite is how when you right-click some highlighted text in Edge, before the "Search the web for this" button, is an additional "Search Bing for this" button. I'm sure the product designer's thought was, "Maybe they just forgot how excellent Bing is, and they will decide to click this Bing button, rather than using the non-Bing search engine they explicitly configured before!" And not "Let's trap some accidental…

Oh this is diabolical IMO. I just tested it to understand what's happening. Below "search the web", there is always a "search in sidebar" option. "Sidebar" basically splits your window and loads your search in the new pane. I assume this is some custom webview, but it looks very, very similar to a new window/tab. The kicker: only Bing search can be loaded in the sidebar. So when you change your default search engine…

That seems, for better or for worse, paved with good intentions.
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