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Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

#11
It's a bit terrifying that people on twitter seem to think this is an intentional product decision rather than a bug plus shitty automated support with no human in the loop.

I guess if you keep setting OKRs like "5% lower support call volume" for years then at some point your reputational risk goes up because you've made it impossible to contact an actual human being.

Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

#12
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Update from Uber Support 30 minutes ago https://mobile.twitter.com/Uber_Support/status/1399149311175...

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding but does that mean that Uber refunded their employee the $2.20 they paid for doing their job, so driver ended up with exactly $0 after this trip?

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Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

#13
post #11

It's a bit terrifying that people on twitter seem to think this is an intentional product decision rather than a bug plus shitty automated support with no human in the loop. I guess if you keep setting OKRs like "5% lower support call volume" for years then at some point your reputational risk goes up because you've made it impossible to contact an actual human being.

Uber, Doordash, and the like have consistently played games with payments, fees, and tips; an intentional decision would just be par for the course, to see how much you can get away with and toe the line before enough people complain.

Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

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post #13
post #11

It's a bit terrifying that people on twitter seem to think this is an intentional product decision rather than a bug plus shitty automated support with no human in the loop. I guess if you keep setting OKRs like "5% lower support call volume" for years then at some point your reputational risk goes up because you've made it impossible to contact an actual human being.

Uber, Doordash, and the like have consistently played games with payments, fees, and tips; an intentional decision would just be par for the course, to see how much you can get away with and toe the line before enough people complain.

Complaining will do nothing. They will continue this behavior until they're forced to change through regulation.

Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

#16
post #4

Update from Uber Support 30 minutes ago https://mobile.twitter.com/Uber_Support/status/1399149311175...

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding but does that mean that Uber refunded their employee the $2.20 they paid for doing their job, so driver ended up with exactly $0 after this trip?

Was wondering the exact same thing! Talk about a raw deal.

Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

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post #11

It's a bit terrifying that people on twitter seem to think this is an intentional product decision rather than a bug plus shitty automated support with no human in the loop. I guess if you keep setting OKRs like "5% lower support call volume" for years then at some point your reputational risk goes up because you've made it impossible to contact an actual human being.

Even if you ignore Uber’s history of screwing people and lying about it, if this is a bug the decision not to test core software and have ineffective support is an intentional product decision. Senior management sets the structures which make things like this a predictable outcome.

Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

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post #13
post #11

It's a bit terrifying that people on twitter seem to think this is an intentional product decision rather than a bug plus shitty automated support with no human in the loop. I guess if you keep setting OKRs like "5% lower support call volume" for years then at some point your reputational risk goes up because you've made it impossible to contact an actual human being.

Uber, Doordash, and the like have consistently played games with payments, fees, and tips; an intentional decision would just be par for the course, to see how much you can get away with and toe the line before enough people complain.

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Re: Uber charges driver for completing a 13-mile fare

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post #11

It's a bit terrifying that people on twitter seem to think this is an intentional product decision rather than a bug plus shitty automated support with no human in the loop. I guess if you keep setting OKRs like "5% lower support call volume" for years then at some point your reputational risk goes up because you've made it impossible to contact an actual human being.

"Shitty automated support with no human in the loop" is an intentional product decision, and so are the consequences of it.
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