Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook • Hacker News Board

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by ColinWright » Tue, Jul 05, 2011, 9:34 PM UTC

KirinDave wrote: post #150

ColinWright wrote: post #107

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That's not the same thing at all. Taking the time to provide information that you've read the question, considered the options, and specifically want to say that you don't care about Google+ is different from not reading the item, or not considering the options, or deciding not to provide information. I, for one, sometimes choose to share information even about topics in which I have no interest. Why? Because I think…

So Google+ is not interesting, but the idea that you're interested in expressing your disinterest is itself worth interest? Should I write a post complaining about how I want an option on the poll to express that I do not care that you do not care? How deep does this rabbit hole go before we all have better things to do? Hint: depth 0.

And you took time to write that in the hopes of educating me about your attitude. Thanks. I appreciate that.

And in case you're unsure, that is not sarcasm. I genuinely do appreciate the time you spent ensuring that I understood your opinion. I think you're wrong, and I think you've misunderstood my points and my purpose. It is of value to me to see how you've misunderstood.

But I have better things to do than try to fix that misunderstanding.

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by trbecker » Tue, Jul 05, 2011, 10:05 PM UTC

And this is why Facebook should fear +.

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by padobson » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 12:09 AM UTC

kloncks wrote: post #3

You should add an option for those that haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet. Some people, including me, just aren't that cool yet :)

I haven't gotten in yet either. My gmail is in my profile if some blessed, kind soul wants to send me an invite.

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by briggers » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 2:13 AM UTC

revorad wrote: post #12

mstolpm wrote: post #8

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Agreed. Count me in the "I'd like to have a chance to test it over Facebook" section ;-)

If you guys have gmail accounts I'll invite you. EDIT: HN usability fail navigation Tip #97: The email field in your profile is invisible to others. Put your email in the About field so that others can see it.

I'd love an invite! Gmail address: paul.bridger

Thanks!

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by kelnos » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 4:53 AM UTC

joegaudet wrote: post #135

Given I've not been able to invite hardly any of my friends, I haven't really gotten to make much use of it. I think, for me at least, this is a mediocre entree to the platform, since my first impression is that it has almost no utility, they really should have just opened it up to everyone so I could quickly have my FB buddies on here and be having fun and socializing.

I go back and forth on this. On one hand Google of all companies should have no problem scaling a new service up to a huge number of users, and quickly.

But I think the real issue is they want to tease out problems early, with people who are likely to be a bit more forgiving. I've been using G+ for almost a week now, and I've heard of a few bugs that were easy to fix with a small userbase, but could have caused trouble -- and a lot of negative opinions/press -- if it had been open to a wider audience.

So yes, it's a little frustrating that I'm missing chunks of my real-life friend circles, but I totally understand why they're rolling out the service as they are.

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by wnight » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 6:35 AM UTC

pkulak wrote: post #130

jpk wrote: post #66

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I'm in the same boat because I have a Google Apps account, so Google Profiles (and thus Google+) isn't available to me (yet?).

This was the last straw for me and my Google Apps account. I thought it was a good idea at the time, but I'm sick of being an afterthought. A couple nights ago I migrated everything over to my @gmail account. I even moved my phone over, which meant I had to wipe it completely and re-buy a couple apps! But it's all done, and now... I feel... good. I'm a first-class Google citizen again!

This is why I'm not keep on the apps phenomenon - I'm still getting rid of DRM and I don't need more.

I'm sure there are a lot of good programs I'm missing, but (from a Debian-user's perspective) nothing is worth that sort of hassle.

The mobile market still seems bent on packaging users as the commodity. First holding them ransom to carriers (remember when people had to pay for new ringtones?!) and now to app-store dealers. Nobody makes the phone they really want to use, they make the phone they can best monetize.

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by wnight » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 6:59 AM UTC

webwright wrote: post #128

I like it (UI-wise). As an experiment, I updated on both Facebook and G-Plus that I just celebrated my wedding anniversary (yay!). I also tweeted it, for good measure. results: Twitter: 2 @replies Facebook: 8+ likes, 3 comments Google Plus: Nothing I have ~80 people who have put me in some sort of circle (versus 200 or so facebook friends). So how do I feel about Google Plus's efficacy as a place to share stuff? Jury…

People "liked" your anniversary?

This is why Slashdot has multiple reasons for +1/-1 mods. More flexibility.

Congrats might be appropriate, but should that count as a +1 making your update more visible? It's hard to say. Perhaps it should differ by user - being a +1 to users who tend to congratulate others.

But anyways, your experience might lead me to try G+ where I haven't tried their competitors.

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by heresy » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 9:29 AM UTC

theycallmemorty wrote: post #87

gazrogers wrote: post #60

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Keep trying. It can take a while. It was nearly 24 hours between when I received an email with a join link and finally getting past the "temporarily exceeded capcity" message.

Its been over 36 hours for me and I'm still not in.

I got an invite 6 days ago. Still no go!

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by dadro » Wed, Jul 06, 2011, 1:33 PM UTC

dadro wrote: post #59

revorad wrote: post #12

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If you guys have gmail accounts I'll invite you. EDIT: HN usability fail navigation Tip #97: The email field in your profile is invisible to others. Put your email in the About field so that others can see it.

Would love an invite from anyone willing to share. ngmaloney [at] gmail

Thank you so much for invite!

Re: Poll: Google+: Like it/prefer it to FaceBook

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Post by mise » Thu, Jul 07, 2011, 8:12 AM UTC

rwolf wrote: post #136

mise wrote: post #134

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It really sucks, though. Between Calendar and Docs, there's often a conflict where it won't log me in to the second account.

This was my experience 6 months ago (I ended up using multiple firefox profiles for months because of it). Just tried it again this week, and I haven't run into the "derp derp derp one half of your accounts aren't allowed to see this"-type error yet.

Great, will give it another go, in that case. There's one little niggle still. Signing into a delegated Gmail account, there's no option for Labs. I want my signature to appear above the message I'm replying to, but this doesn't seem possible.