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Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by 99_00 »

rightbyte wrote: post #153

> The Kamloops school operated between 1890 and 1969. I was going to querry what the estimated amount of dead children there would be as baseline, but the school operated way later then I anticipated and for a shorter time. So 500 pupils and two die every year if uniform, but I guess the deaths were weighted heavely to the beginning. Sounds like a really bad environment for the time, right? The spannish flu surely di…

It was most definitely a bad environment. Children were essentially kidnapped and forbidden from speaking their language, expressing indigenous identity, and europeanized.

It's interesting to know that the people doing this and supporting it thought that they were doing something good for the kids. Remember that when someone with a good intentioned idea that doesn't respect people's humanity speaks up.

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by vmception »

michael1999 wrote: post #64
vmception wrote: post #11

Twisted, any guesses as to what was going on? Physical harm? Malnourishment?

A mix of disease, medical neglect, fire, malnourishment, physical abuse, suicide, murder, and exposure while attempting escape. Ethnic cleansing is a horrifying business. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/newly-discovered-b-c-gr...

Are there any movies like horror or suspense films to burn this First Nation’s boarding school concept into our collective conscious?

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by throwaway24006 »

ncann wrote: post #160
throwaway24006 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Found it on YouTube, blocked in most countries but see workaround below [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL5I4u5RSpQ Whitelisted regions: AD, AT, BE, BG, BL, CH, CY, CZ, DE, DK, EE, ES, FI, FR, GB, GF, GP, GR, HR, HU, IE, IS, IT, LI, LT, LU, LV, MC, MF, MQ, MT, NC, NL, NO, PF, PL, PM, PT, RE, RO, SE, SI, SK, SM, TF, VA, WF, YT [2] [1] downloading/streaming on VLC, mpv or whatever possible from this site: https://v…

I watch ARTE often and I wonder why this specific video is blocked here (Canada). Do they fear that they may face repercussion from the government or some other entities?

Is this blocked too?

https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/093799-000-A/killing-the-india...

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by trhway »

kstenerud wrote: post #6

This is not an isolated incident. These schools operated all across Canada, were created specifically to "de-savage the indians", had zero accountability, and almost destroyed an entire people. These kids were taken from their parents, imprisoned in these places, and endured endless abuse for their formative years. And this went on until 1994 in some places! This is Canada's great shame, and we've barely scratched th…

> we've barely scratched the surface.

USSR had and Russia still has boarding schools for the children of the indigenous people of the North https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JVWOd-DsAw. I wonder if there any reckoning is to come here.

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by ncann »

throwaway24006 wrote: post #163
ncann wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watch ARTE often and I wonder why this specific video is blocked here (Canada). Do they fear that they may face repercussion from the government or some other entities?

Is this blocked too? https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/093799-000-A/killing-the-india...

Yeah that one is blocked as well.

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by twodave »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #158
twodave wrote: post #148

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No, it’s people. It’s always people. That even the church carries out such atrocities says more about humanity than it does about the church.

"Even a church"? Like a church would be less likely to carry out these atrocities than other institutions? The opposite is almost certainly true.

The “church” in my comment is referring to people. Institutions don’t commit atrocities. People do. I was trying to illustrate (perhaps poorly) that even in our most sincere attempts to be good, we fail at it regularly. But how we love to point out and condemn darkness in others.

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by mthoms »

lriel wrote: post #60

The residential school are a very sad state of affairs with regards to the thinning down of the aboriginal stance and culture in Canada before, during and after the Dominion. My country has had a very bad holier than thou attitude with regards to history and culture. In typical aboriginal kickassness, the Ktunaxa took one of those residential schools and turned it into a luxury golfing resort for the rich gentile fol…

> In all of english Canada,

I went to grade school in Ontario during the 80's, and I remember the teachings about Riel being quite nuanced. He wasn't demonized nor glorified. If anything, the material was sympathetic to him and the Metis people.

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by frabbit »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #155
simon1ltd wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve heard that insurance for Catholic Churches aren’t any higher than insurance for a different denomination —- the abuse is at the same level as other churches, it’s just that the Catholic Church is so much larger than any of the others. I can say that the mandatory training programs and background checks that are required to work with children (now) far exceed anything I’ve seen from other churches.

This is almost certainly false. Please provide evidence for these claims.

I second this demand. It is obvious that Protesants carry out more abuse.

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by frabbit »

brailsafe wrote: post #134
throwaway0a5e wrote: post #93

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>It seems like the Catholic Church is often (always?) somehow involved in these systemic child abuse/mass grave stories and it’s mind-boggling to me that we continue to allow an organization with that kind of track record to take responsibility for caring for and placing at-risk children. What's the alternative? The government is no better here.

The only options are the fucking Catholics or the government!?

Quite literally. Except that the government is often the fucking government.

Re: Remains of 215 children found at former residential school in British Columbia

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Post by frabbit »

lriel wrote: post #60

The residential school are a very sad state of affairs with regards to the thinning down of the aboriginal stance and culture in Canada before, during and after the Dominion. My country has had a very bad holier than thou attitude with regards to history and culture. In typical aboriginal kickassness, the Ktunaxa took one of those residential schools and turned it into a luxury golfing resort for the rich gentile fol…

Being uncritical about Quebec's attitude to autochthonous people is a bit complacent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vDFAQzCZE

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