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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by vincentpants »

russellendicott wrote: post #227
83457 wrote: post #139

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I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.

I have this same theory with road cyclists. I have no problem with someone bicycling to get to work but there are many other types of exercise that don't involve blocking traffic by making other drivers terrified to hit you. It's like doing jumping jacks at a gun range. There must be a dominance factor at play.

Homie, it has nothing to do with you or your work commute. Cyclists have every legal right to be on the road as a car and if a shoulder lane isn’t safe enough to cycle on then it’s safest and recommended and the law to take up a whole lane to ensure assholes like you don’t risk their safety/lives by trying to squeeze past them in the same lane. Best to just treat them as a car and try to practice patience.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by dylan604 »

fibonachos wrote: post #208
kelp wrote: post #169

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I'd love it if there were automated tickets for this. But California can't even get it together to allow automated speeding tickets, a bill for this just got killed. In SOMA in San Francisco I'll often hear motorcycles drive by that are so loud they set off car alarms along their path. And don't get me started on the cost/benefit of car alarms.

I used to work in a busy downtown area of the east bay and we used to get a lot of the loud bike with loud stereo rolling through. What other possible motivation could there be for such a thing than wanting the attention? South Park hit the nail on the head with their loud motorcycle episode. As for the cameras, I’ll echo the sentiments of a sibling comment. You don’t want them. I lived in AZ in the mid 00’s when the…

>What other possible motivation could there be for such a thing than wanting the attention?

To be fair, convertibles are similar. The wind noise of the open air is very loud when moving at speed, so the stereo must be that loud to compensate. There are some setups that will increase/decrease the volume appropriately as the speed changes, but that's not always the case. So as the bike is sitting at a light, the sound is still blaring at the same volume. Maybe the rider is still an asshat for not lowering the volume, but I'd go so far as saying their an asshat for refuting the concept the sound of the ride is the experience by blasting choons.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by tobesure »

vincentpants wrote: post #241
russellendicott wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have this same theory with road cyclists. I have no problem with someone bicycling to get to work but there are many other types of exercise that don't involve blocking traffic by making other drivers terrified to hit you. It's like doing jumping jacks at a gun range. There must be a dominance factor at play.

Homie, it has nothing to do with you or your work commute. Cyclists have every legal right to be on the road as a car and if a shoulder lane isn’t safe enough to cycle on then it’s safest and recommended and the law to take up a whole lane to ensure assholes like you don’t risk their safety/lives by trying to squeeze past them in the same lane. Best to just treat them as a car and try to practice patience.

>Cyclists have every legal right to be on the road as a car and if a shoulder lane isn’t safe enough to cycle on then it’s safest

How many man hours are wasted by cyclists who take up the road and drive at half or less the speed limit? Isn't that sort of selfish, asshole behavior? Why should their desire to exercise in public supercede that of everyday people trying to go about their lives? Sure, it may only be a couple of minutes of inconvenience for the driver stuck behind a bicyclist, but collectively there is a significant externalized cost and I think people have every right to be infuriated by the selfishness.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by bayindirh »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #229
berkes wrote: post #200

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I live in a nature area, on a curvy road (a dike). On sunny days, the amount of motorcycles passing is insane: several hundreds. Of those, under 1% is like you: rediculously loud, shifting gears too late, etc. Me and my neighbors are so fed up with those 20-something noise pollutors per week, that we're working with our regional govt to ban all motorcycles on these roads, or re-arrange our road so motorcycling is no…

You seem to be projecting. My motorbike always had a street legal exhaust on it and it wasn't particularly loud. Perhaps you should spend less time worrying about a little bit of noise, especially during daylight hours, presumably on mostly sunny days.

Can you be underestimating how sound propagates in silent environments, and our brains are so efficient at filtering background noise?

Since the pandemic started, traffic around my home decreased tremendously and, even smallest traffic became bothering. In sparsely populated areas, that oddball sound is much more disturbing to residents which are used to silence.

BTW, getting angry to people who we don't know personally is not very productive IMHO.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by annoyingnoob »

quercusa wrote: post #150
annoyingnoob wrote: post #145

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I did both, but the rules have changed since then. When I did the CA DMV motorcycle test it was super easy. Ride straight between two white lines, then around a full circle between the lines, then back between another set of lines - all you have to do is stay in the lines. Took all of about 1 minute. The trick was to use a small motorcycle, you need a 250cc or above for M1 so I borrowed a 250. Piece of cake.

When I did it (long ago) I think there was a cone weave as well. I started off thinking that test was a poor representation of what riding was actually like, but came to understand that for a quick test, it probably mapped pretty well to basic MC skills.

Its been 30 years for me, maybe I just dont remember that part. I only recall the second part here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H572hoMVZXY

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

leon_sbt wrote: post #152

Really interesting concept. I like the general lines of the bike. Looks really well thought out/clean sheet mechanical design. Two points of contention: 1) After putting over 40k+ miles on various bikes, I never once wished there was a self balancing feature to make it stand up on its own. At a stop light; I put my foot down; at a really long stop light, I put the kickstand down. If the self balancing feature can fun…

Right there with you on two. I don’t yet understand the thinking behind that, but I’ll keep reading. It looks really threatening.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by kindall »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #67
CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

"Loud pipes save lives," they say, while putting their own lives in danger from ordinary motorists who must constantly repress the urge to destroy the insufferable noise machine.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by edejong »

mFixman wrote: post #144
edejong wrote: post #125

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Perhaps treating the other road users as people instead of derogatory terms like cagers would help. In addition, choosing a mode of transport which is literally 20 times more lethal per kilometer than driving is your responsibility. You can always choose to be a ‘cager’.

Motorcycles are lethal _because_ of cars. Blaming people for injuries are deaths caused by cars is the most discusting tactic the car industry has used to fight against road safety. Just look at any newspaper article about car drivers murdering children: they are always phrased as in "inattentive child was looking at his cellphone and died in a road". I find it incredible that walking on a street is illegal in parts…

I wish it was that simple. First of all, around half of the lethal accidents with motorcycles do not involve another road user. The other half is often caused by the motorcyclist due to speeding, insufficient distance or incorrect clothing and protection.

Second of all, while cars have seen half a century of safety improvements, motorcycles have lagged behind. Nevertheless, road use and traffic density have increased. Riding a motorcycle is akin to driving a car without a seatbelt, without a crumble zone and without ABS (and even then it is more lethal). Accidents happen. It is how you prepare for them that makes the difference.

Yes, I also find it incredibly stupid how the US has become so walking and cycling unfriendly. The reason why the Netherlands is different is not due to legal or regulations. It's because we have had leaders who made long-term plans to separate the various types of traffic. This means we separate the risk groups. You won't find many walking on roads with traffic exceeding 50 kph (30 mph). You won't find cyclists on highways. That is the solution.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by Rexxar »

tomcooks wrote: post #191
Rexxar wrote: post #111

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Absolutely no problem but lots of people like to trash talk on EU for no reason at every occasion they have.

Also some people have custom made Vespas like I do and to get it approved by the EU as a vehicle I have to export it to Switzerland and then reimport it to my country, but keep on letting your imagination run wild

Vehicle are approved by each country, not by EU. EU make that validation in one country is accepted in all country of the union and other countries that have a treaty with the union (Switzerland in this case). So you are blaming EU for the failure of the country you are in whereas it's the EU rule that have allowed you to get it in another country.

EU has help you to get what you need and for some reason you find a way to blame it.

If there was no EU, you would need to have one validation per country.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by texasbigdata »

russellendicott wrote: post #227
83457 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.

I have this same theory with road cyclists. I have no problem with someone bicycling to get to work but there are many other types of exercise that don't involve blocking traffic by making other drivers terrified to hit you. It's like doing jumping jacks at a gun range. There must be a dominance factor at play.

Also...car? 1 person in it. Bike? 1 person on it. Why do you assume you take precedence?
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