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It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by KoftaBob »

KishanBagaria wrote: post #88
slowraise wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is texts.com a work around for sending live imessages on a PC?

Yes, with a catch: it requires an always on Mac (which can be in the cloud) or a jailbroken iOS device. We plan to make it work without the catch. I've worked with 10+ messaging platforms so far and Apple's protocol is the most obfuscated and complicated to reverse engineer. Apple has invested millions of dollars to make the iMessage protocol super hard to reverse engineer. It's how they sell tons of iPhones after al…

> We plan to make it work without the catch.

Interesting, how do you plan to do that?

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by interactivecode »

tl wrote: post #170
KishanBagaria wrote: post #163

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macOS now has System Integrity Protection which requires manual Full Disk Access perms to read chat.db so any random app cannot touch it.

Which you end up applying to random things like ruby because Emacs.app uses a ruby-based launcher and anything less than Full Disk Access breaks dired.

So as a developer you need full disk access to run your programs? Oh my god, the surprise ;-)

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by interactivecode »

KishanBagaria wrote: post #88
slowraise wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is texts.com a work around for sending live imessages on a PC?

Yes, with a catch: it requires an always on Mac (which can be in the cloud) or a jailbroken iOS device. We plan to make it work without the catch. I've worked with 10+ messaging platforms so far and Apple's protocol is the most obfuscated and complicated to reverse engineer. Apple has invested millions of dollars to make the iMessage protocol super hard to reverse engineer. It's how they sell tons of iPhones after al…

Wasn’t it also that they had a great distributed way of doing messages but got sued to changes their implementation?

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by hboon »

interactivecode wrote: post #243
KishanBagaria wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, with a catch: it requires an always on Mac (which can be in the cloud) or a jailbroken iOS device. We plan to make it work without the catch. I've worked with 10+ messaging platforms so far and Apple's protocol is the most obfuscated and complicated to reverse engineer. Apple has invested millions of dollars to make the iMessage protocol super hard to reverse engineer. It's how they sell tons of iPhones after al…

Wasn’t it also that they had a great distributed way of doing messages but got sued to changes their implementation?

FaceTime was. Not sure if it happened to iMessage

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by AnonC »

Tangential: Telegram has a great search feature. It’s super fast, allows to visit messages by date and in group chats you can even see the list of people who feature in the keyword search results. The UX is great, and all chat apps should just imitate it as a start.

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by hedora »

swiley wrote: post #126
dehrmann wrote: post #12

> A tale of wasted space and Services revenue With photos, I guess this could end up being around 1GB. Maybe this will push you off the free plan to the $1/mo plan, but I don't see it being that big of a needle-mover for services revenue.

I made the mistake of turning on automatic photo back up (I have no idea how to bulk copy photos off the iphone without a mac, I've given them up as lost honestly, most of them are random crap anyway) and now my icloud account is completely full and I keep getting told I need to send Apple money. I definitely prefer my current phone that lets me just rsync ~/Pictures.

I paid $0.99 for photosync. It syncs to many cloud providers, and (most importantly to me) to ssh/sftp.

You can set it to sync whenever your phone is inside a particular location boundary (e.g. at home, where there is wifi), so it works transparently with zero ports open to the internet, and no firewall-bypassing cloud services.

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by foobarbazetc »

I recently had to restore from an iCloud backup that contains all my messages (which I never and will never delete) and it took over 24 hours to restore them.

The restore daemon actually downloads every single image and attachment you’ve ever sent or received one file at a time.

Not that I can scroll back that far, but you never know when you need to search for something.

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by foobarbazetc »

controlledchaos wrote: post #200
breakfastduck wrote: post #185

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That alone must be worth some serious money.

GoDaddy estimates it at $25,000

Those estimates mean nothing. GoDaddy would list it at 250k+.

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by anoncake »

cglong wrote: post #78
esolyt wrote: post #20

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Is it really "on top of SMS" though? The way I see, it's just a messaging app like WhatsApp, Telegram etc but they just combined it with the SMS app on their platform. I am failing to see the additional value of combining them. If Google bought WhatsApp and combined it with the stock SMS app of Android, I don't think I would prefer that.

One underrated feature of iMessage is graceful degradation. If I'm unable to send/receive data for whatever reason, my message (and their replies) automatically fall back to SMS. There's been a few occasions where this was my only way of communicating important information, so I'm grateful for it.

Does this also apply when the recipient cannot receive data?

Re: It's virtually impossible to read old iMessages and they take up tons of storage

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Post by hibern8 »

foobarbazetc wrote: post #248
controlledchaos wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GoDaddy estimates it at $25,000

Those estimates mean nothing. GoDaddy would list it at 250k+.

Christmas.com sold for over $3M. I would think texts.com would be worth a lot more than $250k.
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